avon b7

supadav03 said:

rogifan_new said:

All 3 lenses on Huawei P20 have OIS. Wonder if this will be the same with the next iPhone. The P20 camera is getting really good reviews.

,Just wonder how many lenses are really necessary. Feel like we’re getting into razor territory “our new razor has 5 blades!” Google’d Pixel has a pretty great camera, mostly on par with the X & S9, while only having 1 lense. I’d be surprised if this triple lens prediction comes true. 

I think it makes sense to wonder that.

I was holding off on any opinion until the first reviews appeared (as opposed to hands on) and they are now appearing.

All of them put the P20 Pro triple camera front and foremost and agree that it is taking photos that simply aren't achievable on any other phones (Huawei Mate RS excepted of course). That, coupled with the versatility of the three camera set-up.

Some don't like the post processing on the 'mode' shots but that can be disabled or you can shoot RAW if you prefer.

So far, it seems to have been well worth the effort. Not sure if we'll see triple front facing cameras but dualies already exist.

rogifan_new said:

All 3 lenses on Huawei P20 have OIS. Wonder if this will be the same with the next iPhone. The P20 camera is getting really good reviews.

They also have AIIS  running through the NPU and predictive AF which is what many are calling a 'game changer' in smartphone camera technology.

bloggerblog said:

Early Europeans fled Europe to evade taxes. Let that sink in for a minute

Taxes aren't the problem.

I have family in Brazil. They have huge houses, swimming pools, even separate houses for guests. They have a security perimeter surrounding the entire residential area, private security and only registered taxi drivers are allowed. All services personnel are vetted before they can work there.

Life on the inside is bliss. The problem is that life on the outside isn't as good.

They pay for all of this out of their own pockets. Taxes are a secondary consideration.

They all visit Europe annually. I have one coming to stay this week. They would love to live here permanently, in spite of tax obligations.

I have Swiss neighbours here who visit in summer. They pay more taxes in one month than I pay in a year. They own their property in Spain but rent in Switzerland because they cannot afford to buy. They will retire here when the time comes.

So, on the one hand a group of people who pay little in taxes dreams of living in the EU. On the other hand, another group of people who pay too much (in their opinion) who also dream of living here.

Clearly, taxes themselves aren't the problem. It is the amount and the perceived value of what you get in return that is the issue.

Going forward, and thanks to transparency laws, government will be held far more accountable for how they spend our money. More and more projects are being put to the general public in consultation processes and people are learning more about exactly what their taxes are being spent on.

Cesar Battistini Maziero said:

avon b7 said:

mcdave said:

lito_lupena said:

the number of available apps on offer is no longer a good metric. rather, the quality of apps is, now. what’s to brag about a trillion apps when 80% of those are crap versus just 100,000 and all are of top quality?

Which also makes the good ones unfindable.  Then again, Android fans don’t care about quality.

How did you reach that conclusion?

Quality is quality and crap is crap. There are both on all stores.

If you can't find the good apps, perhaps the store is failing, the user, or both.

Android apps are lower quality, you can't disagree with that!

Snapchat works better, Instagram works better and so many others!

I can't? LOL

Blanket statements don't work here.

I don't use Snapchat or Instagram. 

On the other hand I have zero issues with Telegram, WhatsApp, Drive, Gmail and WhatsApp received the last round of new features before the iOS version. Camera360 is MUCH better on Android than iOS.

What conclusions do you draw from that?

racerhomie3 said:

avon b7 said:

Last year Huawei was doing live demos of 3D sensing systems with ten times the resolution of FaceID. Huawei has been working with Finisar for years and have even collaborated on product development in the past.

The iPhone X is the only Apple phone with FaceID at present and demand for it will not sky rocket in the coming months. The units necessary for some Android destined 3D sensing equipment probably already exist.

There is the possibility of industry wide supply constraints but I imagine that some Android manufacturers should be able to get models out without too many problems.

The Huawei P20 series will be announced next week and will be a reference point. If it ships without the Point Cloud Depth sensor, it will lend strength to this rumour. If it ships with it, some manufacturers may be covered while others are locked out for a time.

Just a few days to wait.

Too bad Huawei is still stuck with the Android junk.

You'd have to expand on that a little.

On the subject of VCSEL alone, Finisar does more business with the communications industry (including Huawei of course) than with Apple or smartphones. Going forward, this will change as more handset manufacturers include 3D depth sensing. Apple has invested in Finisar for future orders.

Last year Huawei had problems with some Finisar equipment (VCSEL related) which lead to Finisar being disqualified as a supplier for a time. Huawei then took its business to Lumentum and was happy with the results. Finisar corrected the issues and was requalified by Huawei but Lumentum slashed prices to keep favour with Huawei.

I don't know how this will leave the playing field but I think Huawei shouldn't have difficulties with supply of VCSELs for the phones it will announce soon if they have 3D depth sensing. There are other elements in the manufacturing process though that could complicate things. The number one difficulty behind 3D depth sensing for authentication isn't the hardware but the software behind it.

I'm speaking from memory on the Huawei/Finisar relationship. It might be a little off as a result but the gist is there.