avon b7

StrangeDays said:

billybob88 said:

Soli said:

avon b7 said:

Does it even matter who was first? 

Apparently to certain posters and certain companies it's really important.

I'm beginning to think some people just can't accept that Apple might not be first or best with something. 

Most people here understand that Apple is rarely first to market, and yet it's the same "…bu-bu-but Apple wasn't first" comments when Apple does something better than the competition.

The issue is that most people here don't realize that Apple wasn't first. Then if someone else comes up with a feature they immediately think that Apple is being copied.
You can't be harsh on the competitors for introducing a feature that Apple copied themselves.

You can because typically the "first!" implementation sucks, the Apple implementation gets it right, and then the knockoffs copy Apple's implementation. 

Remember, ideas are the easy part. Talent isn't having a great idea ("fingerprint biometrics"), talent is building the idea in a value-adding way (TouchID). Apple often performs the heavy lifting here and shines the light on the proper way to do a thing. See iPhone. iPad. iPod. MacBooks. Macintosh. etc...

Really????

Google had great maps. Few complaints. Developed over time.

Apple bought some mapping companies, kludged things together, released it as a star feature and it was a disaster of perhaps unprecedented proportions. No! Wait! There was Mobile Me before that. Another, this time, home brewed disaster. ;-)

hill60 said:

avon b7 said:

Banks are generally evil but I have to admit that my  bank doesn't charge me anything and has really pushed into the technological side (although it doesn't support AP).

Spanish banks have also taken a battering recently from the courts. First with the so called 'preferentes', then the floor clauses and now with mortgage formalization costs. I stand to receive up to 5,000€ as a result of that last one.

All in all it's costing the banks billions and that's one of the reasons I'm not paying any kind of fees.

It's not going to happen here under our current government, the party in power receives way too much in political donations, they block any attempts to bring some of the bank's more reprehensible behaviours to account.

They even want to give them a $A7 Billion tax cut.

The Prime Minister is an ex banker who worked for Goldman Sachs and was almost jailed for his role in HIH/FAI, Australia's largest corporate collapse for publishing a misleading prospectus when shares were floated, a secret settlement believed to be $500,000,000 is the only reason he avoided it.

Thousands of people lost their life savings, the building industry ground to a standstill as HIH was their main insurer.

Not only evil but unjust.

My bank was also taken to court (mortgage floor clauses) and would have tried to wear claimants out in court but a Spanish judge escalated the issue to the European Court of Justice and from there they had little chance of winning the case. The bank, and all other Spanish banks that applied such clauses in the same way, will now have to return an estimated 4 billion euros to consumers. And quickly.

The EU has also forced Spain to modify its mortgage laws to bring them into line with EU legislation. 

adm1 said:

so it's not "iphone based" at all, it's code/pin based and could theoretically be used on android/windows phone too if they have apps for this bank. several other banks already have this but you get the code over the phone or by text. write an article about it when they are NFC / apple-pay compatible, thats news. 

At least at my bank, that's how it works. I just need the phone number of the other person and the amount to be sent. Of course, I can use the service to take out cash without a card for myself.

payeco said:

Anyone know if you can make deposits with this method as well or if it's withdraws only?

Not sure I follow you. For deposits I just transfer the money from account to account using the phone or the web. In my case its all commission free. I just select the account to take funds from, the IBAN to send the funds to and the amount. After that I put in my authorisation code and it's done.

starwars said:

Not exactly an upgrader, but yet to jump onto the ipad wagon since ipad was born. Love apple and been eyeing. But haven't found a compelling reason to own one, given its limited ability in its own class. Still choose iphone and laptop.

I would never use an iPad as a main computer(iOS hampers what can be done) but as a secondary machine it is very handy to have available, especially if you are on the go.

Given the option of drafting documentation on an iPhone or a tablet, the tablet would be your choice. For consultation (web, pdf etc) the difference is smaller but most people would still opt for the tablet. For entertainment consumption (reading, videos etc) the tablet experience wins out again.

Both iPads and iPhones suffer the same weaknesses: iOS. You will always be better off with a traditional computer. iOS and the ecosystem it sits in is very unflexible. You have to adapt to it and use workarounds for tasks that were resolved years ago on traditional computers but as you have an iPhone already, you're well aware of these issues.

My biggest (minor) gripe is the lack of an IR blaster. With the right software, a retired iPad could become a great universal remote at little or non extra cost.