boltsfan17

dysamoria said:

“...a built-in battery...”

So, the controller is more disposable electronic trash, that has to be repurchased if you wear out the battery before you’re done with the PlayStation... or is it easily serviced to replace it with some standard battery?

I've never had a controller battery wear out. The controller that came with my PS4 on launch day lasted until the PS4 Pro came out. 

foregoneconclusion said:

The catch for console controllers is the battery life. They're not made to be mobile. They're made to be used within a short distance of a plugged box that can recharge them.

PS5 controllers are pretty mobile. The battery lasts over 15 hours on a charge. I can't see a scenario where someone wouldn't be able to recharge the controller after 15 plus hours of use. 

Rayz2016 said:

And another thing. 

When a trial subscription expires, do not automatically start charging. 

Ask first. 

It would be nice if they did that, but Apple would have to follow suit as well. Apple charges for subscriptions after the free trial if you don't cancel it in time. 

You will be able to steer the car with an Apple TV remote. 

randominternetperson said:

boltsfan17 said:

fred1 said:

I wonder how much the Kia name will affect the whole image of the Apple car. Kia may be a fine producer of cars, I don’t know, but I believe it”s seen as producing inexpensive cars for the lower sector of the market. Even if Apple has full control of every aspect of the design and manufacture, will people be able to disassociate it from the Kia brand?

To be honest, I don't think Kia making cars for Apple will somehow tarnish Apple's image. Apple has to find a partner to produce cars so I don't think it makes a difference if they use Kia, Ford, VW, or any other brand. If people think using Kia somehow tarnishes Apple's image, they have no clue how the auto industry works. I'm sure a lot of people don't even realize makers such as Ford, BMW, Mercedes, etc are sourcing parts from the same supplier. 

I agree with you.  The wrinkle is how will these be sold?  I highly doubt Apple is seriously considering having their cars sold at Kia dealerships.  That would have an impact on perceptions, but that cannot be the plan.  As plenty of people have said here, one of the challenges with cars as opposed to phones and computers is that ongoing maintenance and repairs (with massive involvement from independent third parties) is a big part of the TCO.  When (if) Apple announces this, they'll have to explain where people will take these to be serviced.  Probably not an Apple Store.  Maaaaybe a Kia dealership?  Hrm.

Steve Jobs' head would be exploding with these major leaks in recent days.  

That's a good question. I was thinking Apple could sell them in a similar fashion to Carvana, but where would you go to get warranty repairs or any other repairs done? It's quite feasible Apple won't be selling an Apple branded car and instead using Kia as a partner to use their battery tech and autonomous driving system they've developed. I guess we will know more in the next several years. It's going to be hard for Apple to hide if they start making land purchases or leases in large cities around the country and other parts of the world. If Apple does that, it's going to tell you they plan on having a tradition style dealership. If Apple doesn't do that, the cars will probably have to be sold and serviced at a Kia dealership if they are being built on the Hyundai's E-GMP electric vehicle platform.