analogjack

k2kw said:

Next Year We will have IPhone 9 and 9plus based on design of 8/8plus and iPhone XI.  2019 will introduce IPhone XII and XIIplus.  2020 will be the Apple electric Car.

I don't think that is what is going to happen. There's no where else for the iPhone 8 to go, I think that line is finished, next year there'll be two sizes of X and the same SE. People who do not want an X next year will not be unhappy with this year's 8. In 2019 we'll see the SE with an  A11 chip and the X's will be by that time on A13. Good times.

Who would have guessed?

[quote]Apple executives "don't want kids catching a stray nipple," [/quote]

They should be able to use their smart technology to block the camera from taking nude photos too. Stray nipples are a curse on Western society the sooner we can eliminate these vile body parts from corrupting our vulnerable teenagers, the better.

tallest skil said:

analogjack said:

The iPhone has never been symmetrical either vertically or horizontally. 

What on Earth are you saying? The content has been. If the iPhone is actually as Jony claims–hardware melting into the background to make people unconscious of everything but content–the last thing Apple would want is people being aware of the hardware, right?

...there is no notch. ...it is not notched.

This sounds awfully doublespeaky.

I said the phone was not symmetrical and it isn't. But if you say the content has been then you must be referring to the rectangular border for the content. And the X has the same rectangular border for content as every other iPhone (not counting rounded corners).

But wait I hear you cough as you almost choke on a sip of coffee say when you're watching movie there's a notch cut into it. Yes but that's not the content area that is the usable part of what would have been the bezel on either side of the sensors. Sort of like how they put a touch bar on the MacBook, it has multiple uses. It is then obviously made contiguous with the content area of the screen. Mainly it's used for status info and it blends into the content background for games but it is itself not content area, and Apple specifically states this in their Human Interface Guidelines for the X. 

When you watch a movie it will not by default enlarge into the tangs, that extend from the content area because it's not content area. However just like how the Touch Bar on the MacBook may be used in various ways so the non content area that is the 'ears' or 'tang' as I prefer to call it, may be used for content if you so choose. "Choose", being the operative word here.

You can double tap a video and it will enlarge into the ears it will also crop the top and bottom of the video as well. Why anyone would want to do this I don't know but you may if you want. If you think it's ugly and distracting then why would you choose to enlarge the content into the non content area and then complain about it? That's moving into troll territory. I'm not saying you are doing that I'm just making a point that it is a hot topic amongst trolls. Some of whom actually complain that Apple says the screen is 5.8" diagonally so that "proves" it's content areas, er no it proves the screen is 5.8", but then they complain it's false advertising. FFS, it's less than one fifth of one inch difference if you measure the content area from corner to corner using a line drawn under the bezel.

Now to address the 'it's not a notch'. Below is an image of a piece of a float bowl control on a carburettor, it has a 'tang' which can be bent. You'll also see that the negative space around the tang looks like a notch. Whether it's a tang or a notch depends on which part is the useful part. In the case of the carburettor the tang is the point, so it's a tang and not a notch.

In the case of the iPhone it's the ears that are the extra bit, it's the ears that are useful there is an appearance of a notch but that just depends on the interplay between negative and positive space, much like the 'arrow' on the FedEx logo, there isn't really an arrow there is just an appearance of an arrow. Same with the notch.

Now you may say that you simply don't like the look of it even as background for an app, even if it's not content area it just bugs you, well all I can say to that is either forgeddaboudit, or take a listen to what Federighi said about the complaints about Face ID and realise that your dislike will 'melt away' when you see it working.

So I think I've explained sufficiently why it's not a 'notch' and why the content area is still basically rectangular. If you need any further clarification please do not hesitate to ask, I'm available Mondays to Friday at various times throughout the day from 6am to 11pm Eastern Daylight Saving Time. 

EDIT: whoops forgot the 'tang' image.

anantksundaram said:

entropys said:

I must admit he only thing about a bezel that concerns me is the overall size the phone ends up.  So the notch will be  spot of bother until apps are updated to address it, as this instagram example shows.

I think what I will do is get the X as soon as I can, then if I don't like it return it for an 8 plus.

The notch does look intrusive. I'll end end up getting one, but I can't say I am blown away by its looks.

I am beginning to wonder if Apple may be at the end of the road in terms of the design/functionality of the iPhone form factor as we've known it for the past ten years.

aldrinjtauro said:

cali said:

StrangeDays said:

entropys said:

That notch is certainly...noticeable. 

Keep in mind commenters on the thread said the Instagram app hadn’t been updated for the X with regards to the Safe Zone or whatever. 

We’ve had bezels for a decade and suddenly a tiny notch bothers us. 

Probably because they were symmetrical and not intrusive into content. 

The iPhone has never been symmetrical either vertically or horizontally. The "notch" is not intrusive in fact there is no notch. The screen is intrusive, it's intruding up into the bezel area, which means that you can now have status information there which means that that strip across your screen with status information does not need to be there any more. What you refer to as a 'notch' is in fact the phone itself, namely the sensor array. What appears to you as a notch is in fact what you get when you add two tangs from the screen to the bezel. It's not as if there was ever going to be screen there so it is not notched.

When you watch a movie it will by default fill the top and bottom first and fall well short of the bezel. If you have a very wide 1:2.39  movie then it will automatically size right up to the bottom of the bezel. You can still tap to enlarge if you want.