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Apple is working on a giant iMac, but it isn't coming soon

thedba

July 2023

ITGUYINSD said:

Musk can build rockets faster than Apple can build a simple all-in-one computer. Aluminum chassis, system board and display. What takes 2 years?

Another Elon Musk fanboy?

Maybe he can buy out a display manufacturer and do miracles with it like he did for Twitter.

Apple is working on a giant iMac, but it isn't coming soon

thedba

July 2023

appleinsideruser said:

darkvader said:

There's an easy fix right now.

Just get a mini and a non-Apple screen. I'm telling ALL my clients not to buy iMacs any more. It's just ridiculous to buy a 24" all in one computer when you can get a computer that's just as powerful and a 30" screen for less money.

Yes. But I do like the all-in-one package as i can easily shift it around, which suits my work setup. At risk of going off topic, do you have a recommended hiDPI monitor that is as good as my 5k iMac?

General rule of thumb to retain the "Retina" DPI's
24" --> 4.5K (Apple's current 24 inch iMac)

27" --> 5K (Apple studio Display)

30" --> 5.5K (My estimate)

32" --> 6K (Apple Pro Display XDR)

But it always depends on what you do.

If you're in to the Visual Arts (Photography / Film / Video) then resolution is but one aspect of what you're looking for. Color accuracy, HDR/XDR, peak brightness, dimming zones (for non-OLED) are all things you should be looking at.

Giant 30-inch iMac, iPhone 15, OLED iPads: Apple's roadmap for 2023-2024

thedba

June 2023

9secondkox2 said:

chutzpah said:

Have you seen how big the heat sinks on the Ultra chips in the Mac Studio and Pro are? Highly unlikely they’d try to jam that into an iMac chassis.

And what iMac chassis would that be? We aren’t talking about the 24” and we haven’t seen the 32” yet.

A M2 Ultra won’t be jammed into any iMac. An M3 will. And it’s likely this which has held up the offering.

Heat sinks don’t only go straight up or even have one shape if you remember. After seeing a ton of stress tests, it seems overkill as the thing never throttles no matter how much you throw at it for however long - and does so without using the fans hardly at all.

To state the obvious:

1. A big iMac has lots of space for heat dissipation - especially for a 3nm SOC. And then there are fans. A 32” diagonal footprint is a lot bigger than the 7.7” Studio.

2. A big iMac, iMac Pro, iMac Studio or whatever does not have to be as paper thin as the little one. MacBooks aren’t the same thickness. iMacs don’t have to be either. And to be performant, they shouldn’t be.

Small minded people get funny about things. And people who get threatened by something become suddenly small-minded. Especially those lacking engineering knowledge or a grasp of history. Just because the Studio is designed a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the only way to do it. Apple did fine with an iMac that not only had to manage a hot, fast Intel chip, but also a fast discrete GPU. They’ll design the new iMac to be even better thermally with a far more efficient 3nm SOC package.

The only way it doesn’t happen is if Apple simply doesn’t want to. There is no engineering/thermal barrier anymore than their was for the MacBook Pro before apple made it thicker to accommodate M Max chips.

The one elephant in the room that none of you have discussed is how much would a 30” or 32” iMac cost?

We know that an Apple Studio Display at 27” and 5K resolution costs $1600.

Well at 30” it can’t stay at 5K, if it wants to retain the “Retina” moniker at 218ppi. It’s likely to be bumped up to $2000 for a 5.5K display (very conservative estimate if Apple were to release such a display). Add an M2 or M3 in there and it suddenly jumps to $3000 starting price (again very conservative estimate).

If they decide to go with a 32” iMac then 6K is the way to go (all because of that pesky “Retina” label at 218ppi). What would a starting price be for such a machine? $4000, $5000???

Giant 30-inch iMac, iPhone 15, OLED iPads: Apple's roadmap for 2023-2024

thedba

June 2023

BiC said:

Marvin said:

macxpress said:

I don't buy anything Mark Gurman says...he just throws a bunch of shit at the wall and eventually something sticks. He's constantly changing his story around. Next month he'll have a new story out about how the 30" isn't happening and it'll be a new 27" iMac instead.

It's probably just a refresh of the 32" Pro Display XDR with more local dimming zones. LG QNED gives 2500 zones vs 576 on the Pro Display:

https://www.techradar.com/news/what-is-qned

This means lower blooming, higher contrast. It may allow for a price drop.

A five thousand dollar monitor that does nothing. You can use an HDMI cable and hook up any Macintosh to a Sony OLED. Apple is losing in this game. They have the purchasing power to make TVs with all the software. This one is a clown show. Boyz - Lets make a LCD monitor for Five grand.