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avon b7 said:

williamh said:

So a former employee claims Apple was trying to keep a competitive advantage? That’s shocking. Not.

I don’t understand why Epic thinks Apple had any obligation to do anything differently. 

As Apple (and others) are put inder the digital age microscope, it is these scenarios that take on more significance.

Where is the line between 'competitive advantage' and 'anti-competitive advantage'.
? 

Over the coming months and years we will surely find out and I wouldn't be at all surprised if platform providers are forced to provide a 'key' to their 'locks'. 

Perhaps not necessarily in the form of forced cross platform use but in the form of a way to export everything in a way that can be imported into alternative systems. 

Rayz2016 said:

cloudguy said:

igorsky said:

Yeah because “beating Apple to the market” has been such a successful strategy for Samsung.

Yeah, because Samsung hasn't sold more computing devices than any other company in history.
Because Samsung doesn't have the #1 smart TV platform right now.
Because Samsung doesn't have the #2 wearables platform right now. 
Because Apple hasn't spent the last 6 years copying Samsung's ideas (AMOLED, phablet, stylus, curved screen, smartwatch, AirPods) and won't be taking more in the future (foldables, in-screen fingerprint sensors)
Because Samsung actually hasn't had a better track record in the smart era than Google, and as if Android wouldn't have likely failed had it not been for Samsung's input, and as if other Google products - i.e. Android TV, Android Wear, Chromebooks, Android Things, smart speakers and appliances - wouldn't be a lot better off had Samsung not shunned them in favor of their own products

Apple is #1. Good for them. I participate on this site because I buy their products. But Samsung is a very strong #2 and they are for a reason, holding off or crushing outright formidable competitors like Nokia, Microsoft, Motorola, LG, HTC, Google (who fought a losing battle with Samsung for years that they are still suffering the effects of), Apple (whose legal and PR strategies to drive Samsung from the market failed leaving Apple with "we can't beat them so join them" attitude, which Microsoft later adopted, and note that Microsoft makes Samsung their Android partner, not Google) and Sony for a reason. The only thing that you get out of denying this is frustration.

The butthurt is strong with this one. 🤔

cloudguy said:

I've said it a million times. I will believe that an iPad will replace a PC with expandable RAM and hard drive, a discrete GPU, the ability to install applications from third party sources, a UX that supports true multitasking, the abililty to execute arbitrary code (required for entire professions), the ability to create virtual machines, the ability to segment your hard drive, the ability to dual boot multiple operating systems, play AAA video games etc. when Apple fans tell me that an iPad can replace a MacBook Pro.

Since that doesn't happen - for obvious reasons - then the entire "the iPad can replace a PC" has more to do with the low opinion that Apple fans have concerning people who choose not to buy Apple hardware than it actually does the relative capabilities of iPads versus Windows (or Linux) PCs or even Chromebooks (which can do nearly everything that a Windows or Linux PC can do in Linux mode). 

If you want the best tablet that exists for the purposes of doing whatever it is that people do with tablets then buy an iPad Pro. I will never buy another iPad again personally - $80 Walmart (or free from mobile carrier) Android tablets are fine for 1080p streaming and web surfing, ChromeOS 2-in-1s are very good for on to go productivity, foldable phones offer great versatility - but it is still a fact. But if you want actual personal computer functionality then do not buy an iPad or any other tablet. Buy a Linux (yes they do exist ... Dell, Lenovo and small manufacturers sell them) or Windows PC, a MacBook (Air or Pro) or a Chromebook. This is all that this advertising campaign is pointing out and yes it is absolutely 100% true. Just because Apple chooses for their own reasons to be the only manufacturer on the planet not to offer a PC caliber device with a touchscreen is no excuse to pass off an iPad as a device capable of performing a PC workload. It cannot. No matter how fast its CPU runs - much faster than the Intel Core i3 on my Chromebook - the UI and the restrictions don't permit it. I can load the Ubuntu app store and put any software that I need/want on my Chromebook. On the iPad? Nope. My Chromebook supports real multitasking and true filesystem apps with legitimate access to the local filesystem and local storage. An iPad? Nope. I can connect two 4K monitors to my Chromebook. I can program in Python, C++, Java, node.js, Golang etc. on ChromeOS. I can run a database or web server on my Chromebook and connect to it using my Mac Mini or MacBook Pro as a client. With an iPad Pro? Get real. An iPad Pro runs the best mobile apps in the business ... but that is all it can do. 

Microsoft is 100% right for pointing this out and no huffing and puffing from Apple fans is going to change that. What Apple fans need to do is somehow convince Tim Cook to let the next MacBook Air be a 2-in-1 with a touchscreen. (Buying a 5G modem from Qualcomm for it would be a nice touch too. 5G Windows 2-in-1s have been a thing for a couple of years and the first 5G Chromebook launches this year also. Just saying). Do that and it shuts this Microsoft advertising campaign down in its tracks because no Windows 2-in-1 is capable of matching an M1 Mac's CPU power and few are capable of matching its GPU power. (Traditional Windows laptops are another story, but 2-in-1s definitely.) Till then just grin (or cry if you choose) and bear it because it is 100% true.

EsquireCats said:

Redmond start your photocopiers!
It’s pretty hard for microsoft to discount apple’s products, when they’ve gone to comical lengths to copy them, including the iPad