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StrangeDays said:

thedba said:

MplsP said:
I agree that USB C is the future, but no one can deny that USB A is the present and immediate future. I was at the Apple Store over the weekend and found it rather telling that the only actual USB C devices they had were an external hard drive and a couple of dual USB A/C flash drives. Every other USB C product they had was either a dongle or a hub (with a USB A port.) Not including even a single USB A port in a laptop is inexcusable IMO. The least they could do would be to include a dongle for you after just got done forking over $2000+ for a laptop. All the 'hating' on Apple comes from people being justifiably frustrated at paying a premium price for a premium product that doesn't work out of the box with any of the peripherals they have. If there were a justifiable reason not to have a single USB A port people would bet a bit more forgiving, but there really isn't. (and yes, I realize that cheap dongles can be had, but the real cost is when you show up for a meeting and realize you don't have the dongle with and the data you need is on a USB A flash drive. 

I think that people are more intelligent than that and they do some very basic research when purchasing a product especially one that sets them back by a few thousand $$$. I'll tell you what I do if I ever need to take my MBP to a client's for a presentation. I call them and ask what type of connections do their projectors have and I then act accordingly. Most of the time it's HDMI and I ask if they have cables available or if I need to bring one along. 

As far a premium product doesn't work out of the box remark, I call that grasping at straws. You take the 2016 MBP out of the box, turn it on and go through your usual setup (iCloud etc.) It works just like all previous generations MBP's.  

Agreed. Satisfying any and all use cases is not a requirement for "working out of the box". That's the beauty of a machine using completely standard ports -- it's flexible and can be adapted to your own use cases, which are not everyone's use cases. Simple concept but seemingly difficult to grasp. 

MplsP said:
I agree that USB C is the future, but no one can deny that USB A is the present and immediate future. I was at the Apple Store over the weekend and found it rather telling that the only actual USB C devices they had were an external hard drive and a couple of dual USB A/C flash drives. Every other USB C product they had was either a dongle or a hub (with a USB A port.) Not including even a single USB A port in a laptop is inexcusable IMO. The least they could do would be to include a dongle for you after just got done forking over $2000+ for a laptop. All the 'hating' on Apple comes from people being justifiably frustrated at paying a premium price for a premium product that doesn't work out of the box with any of the peripherals they have. If there were a justifiable reason not to have a single USB A port people would bet a bit more forgiving, but there really isn't. (and yes, I realize that cheap dongles can be had, but the real cost is when you show up for a meeting and realize you don't have the dongle with and the data you need is on a USB A flash drive. 

volcan said:

macxpress said:

People are just gonna have to get over that. USB-C is the future and there's no better way to force 3rd party companies to make USB-C products than to make a market for it having products that only support USB-C. 

So how do you connect your iPhone if you want to charge it or back it up? A $30 dongle?

StrangeDays said:

altivec88 said:

StrangeDays said:

altivec88 said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

Ironhead said:

Äpfelundbirnen said:

I'd be much more interested in a description of the reverse switch since I just bought a used Dell workstation for video and photo editing. I maxed it out with components I'd not even be able to put in a Mac, with the exception of an outdated Mac Pro. This is after 25 years of exclusive Mac usage. Back in the day the Mac was a serious offer for people like me. Nowadays I'd pay a multitude for an inferior Apple machine. It's probably my mistake to expect a smart phone company to deliver powerful stationary computers for creative professionals like I

That was my first thought.

I GUARANTEE that we aren't running any "Switching to Windows?" articles.

That's too bad.  Not sure why that is considered such a hostile request.  I was thinking the same thing as some of the others.  After 30+ years, this is the year we start transitioning over to the dark side (windows) and such an article would really help out some long time Mac users.   Does anyone know of a good site that is similar to Appleinsider but on the PC side of things?

Some of the comments on here are beyond ridiculous.  Guess what people, "Pro's" do different things.  Just because you are able to do your Pro things on a 1997 iMac does not mean every pro can.   Get over yourself as being the centre of the universe.  Others claiming that PC workstations cost the same or are more as a Mac is just plain wrong.  You can easily configure a 30+ core HP or Dell with modern graphics and faster DDR4 Ram for less than what you would pay for the antiquated 12 core MacPro.

There are a lot of good reasons to use Macs but making stuff up or insisting that nobody needs anything greater than an old iMac is not one of them.

What an utter delusional version of what has been said here. Troll nonsense.

My point was very clear -- even a loaded 2011 iMac is a good machine for me as a software engineer professional, so those that roll out the troll-trope that "Macs aren't good for pros!" is 100%, pure bunk. Nonsense. Despite your delusional claims, I never claimed my uses were your uses, or that nobody needs anything faster. Please quote me if you feel otherwise. I'll wait. Rather, I pointed out that it's BS to claim that Macs aren't for pros, because there are a shit-ton of us doing our pro work just fine here. I use a 2011 iMac and a 2014 rMBP and do enterprise professional software dev without issue. 

There have been plenty of articles showing how equipping Dells to mimic Macs costs more.

So no, nobody is "making things up" -- that's just your troll hater narrative showing its true colors.

As for expecting a mac enthusiast site to produce for you a guide to switching to Windows -- just more evidence of trolling this site. Nobody in their right mind would ask or expect such a thing. Go find a Windows site, there are plenty and if you can't find one then it doesn't speak well for your abilities.

I get it now.  Someone made a statement that Apple's Pro computers are no longer good enough for them so you feel your "pro-ness" is being challenged because you don't need more power.    As mentioned, its not about you.  People comment about their own problems.  I agree a lot of "pro's" don't gain anything with a faster machine but there is another subset of "pros" that gain tremendously by increased CPU, or GPU, or PCI slots or whatever it is that they need.  We are the "pro's" that are complaining and leaving.  Apple just isn't keeping up with its competitors anymore for those of us requiring the highest end MacPro level machines.

It doesn't take plenty of articles to go to Dell's website and configure a workstation.  So yah, if you are saying that a MacPro specs out and/or prices out favourably to a Dell or HP workstation then you are lying.  The facts for everyone to see is just a click away. www.dell.com.  I suggest you check it out so you can have some facts next time you want to call someone a troll (or should I just report you for name calling like you do to others).

I'm not sure who you think you are?   You've attack everyone trying to have a civil conversation by peddling your myopic views and insisting their problems and wants aren't real or warranted.   Before calling people trolls, you should check out its definition because its very evident who the troll is.

As for me trolling the site.  I never knew we were stuck in the 90's where its Apple or die.   Computers are just tools. Some tools are better suited for certain tasks than others. Do you get this way when someone wants to try out a different screw driver.  Is it not possible to live in a world where you can be an Apple enthusiast and use windows too.  God forbid that I can use some help on how to introduce some windows machines into our company from a Mac perspective.  I see nothing wrong with that request.

I don't attack anybody. I only point out nonsense arguments -- and you made the nonsensical claim that I said "nobody needs anything greater than an old iMac". That is factual false -- bunk. I asked you to quote where I said that. But if you cannot, then please admit you twisted reality in order to support your own narrative.

Please spec out a Dell that compares to a MBP for us. Thanks.

And yes -- complaining that an apple site won't produce a guide to switching to Windows is the very definition of trolling.