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rob53 said:

Time to investigate this court to make sure it is being operated legally. 

Perhaps you should be investigated to see if you are being operated legally.

hackintoisier said:

I hope Apple loses, as it is stifling competition. Why is it that apps that offer physical goods are treated differently than those that offer virtual goods? Also, how is Apple entitled to 30 percent revenue of billions of dollars of virtual good revenue, when it doesn’t cost nearly that much to run the App Store and offer the services that it does ? Also, why is it that some apps are restricted from being able to even a mention an alternative payment system? Seems draconian. 

I’m not advocating For an end result that leads to alternative app stores in iOS. But at minimum I think there should be competition in regards to in App payments. Apple shouldn’t be the sole supplier. I’m sure if competition opened up, costs would come down for consumers. 

How is Apple sniffling competition? They aren't. What is Apple selling that Epic sells? How are they taking sales from Epic? All developers that sell on the iOS platform are under the same rules = a level playing field = fair competition between developers. Apple does not compete with developers. Every single developer agreed to the terms and conditions before they ever put their first product up for sale. No one forced them to agree, did they? 

Can you show me where Epic has committed to lowering their prices by the amount they want Apple to cut their commission by? I don't think you can.

How much it costs Apple to run the app store or any other part of their business is not your business or mine or anyone else's except those who own and run the company. It's their business, their platform, their  hundreds of billions invested in developing it and supporting it.

Fair market pricing  is determined by a free market and supply and demand. If Epic or Apple is charging more than the market will bear they will suffer. and have to change to stay in business. Neither of them is suffering. Make no mistake about it, Epic in no way is looking to give you or any other gamer a piece of their pie. They are arguing with Apple over how much of the pie Apple gets for providing the platform, store and eco system that allows Epic to exist on iOS. How are you going to benefit from the result of that argument?

How do you feel about living up to your legal and contractural agreements? If you make an agreement that doesn't work out for you, whose fault is that? Apple should take less because Epic regrets making  the deal they did?

Here's some facts for you - In 2019, Epic Games reported $4.2 billion in revenue and $730 million in earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA, a key measure of profitability). Revenue for 2020 is forecast to be $5 billion, with EBITDA of $1 billion. I guess Epic is in dire straights and struggling to survive and make money. I also guess they are "victims" of big bad Apple. Come on, give me a break.

Epic has no intention of passing on any gains to consumers. It will go right in the pockets of the company and owners. Competition between developers would benefit consumers. There is no competition between Epic and Apple. Neither sells the same product. You want to sell in my store? Good, then you will give me the cut I tell you I have to have or you won't sell in my store or on my closed platform you knew from day one was closed.

I am sick of what amounts to whining about Apple especially when it is based on erroneous information or claims that are not true. This has not a thing to do with competition. Apple has not done one thing to stifle competition between gaming developers. They are free to raise or lower their prices as they wish. The reality is the level playing field Apple has created has kept prices down for consumers and spurred development and competition. 

Rayz2016 said:

sflocal said:

Is this click-bait, sensationalist reporting?  Who cares what Apple "mulled".  I'm sure they thought of all kinds of numbers.  I suppose maybe it could have been more so app-developers should be grateful.  In the end, it's what Apple IS doing, not what they were "thinking" of doing.

I wonder if they ever considered 70%, which is what so ever app stores were taking, and Amazon still takes for books. 

Not true. I know from very direct experience.

Amazon does not, and for the last decade has not, taken 70%. On E-books, Amazon's standard commission is 30%. I speak from direct knowledge. My wife is a pretty successful author who generates about 75% of her revenue with Amazon.

Authors that are not independents end up giving up a total of about 70%, but Amazon's cut is still 30%. The author's publishing house is taking the other 40%.

Print books using Amazon's digital print on demand service will pay a higher rate.

Over at 9to5mac the ignorance being expressed is stunning. The euro crowd their is ranting and raving and making up the facts to suit their predisposition towards socialism.

SpamSandwich said:

I dunno.., having money sitting around in accounts like (or on debit cards, or Starbucks cards or what have you) instead of in higher risk/higher reward investments seems a waste to me. Just having money in a savings account these days loses money through inflation.

So a flat 10% bonus on your investment seems like a waste to you? On annualized basis that essentially risk free return on your money is huge and can't be matched anywhere else without making junk level investments that are highly unlikely to ever pay off.

If you put $100 on your Apple ID plus the $10 bonus and used it in three months the APR is 40%. If you take a year to spend it the return is still 10%. That seems like a waste to you?

In the politest way possible I can say it to you, you don't have any idea what you are talking about or are as uneducated about simple personal and consumer finance as someone can be.