matt45

michael scrip said:

hagar said:

Thanks for pointing me to Joanna Stern's article on iPhone and AI in WSJ. I think she's spot on. The position of Apple on privacy is not a desirable one. If I look at my Android friends that are amazed by the AI delivered to their phone by Google & friends that analyse their data, I can't help but wonder how Apple will ever deliver something similar?  Nobody seems to care that Apple protects their privacy (it's a multinational too!) and Google not. They just want useful information delivered to them when they need it.

Exactly.  It's the old "privacy vs convenience" argument.  I would imagine there are more people want useful information than there are people who are freaks about privacy.

It's funny though... I bet a huge chunk of iPhone users use Google/GMail... as well as Facebook and other similar services.

So the privacy Apple is protecting for people is counteracted by the privacy they're losing by using those other services.

From what I can tell from iOS 10, Apple proved you don't have to choose between convenience and privacy. Differential privacy is introduced in order to help with that. 

Machine learning doesn't mean you need to constantly have every piece of data in order to "better" convienience.. Initial data is used to build predictive "equations" or more accurately models that a lower processing device can handle easily. (Look at spam filter in standalone email apps as an example). 

Facebook knows this.. Google knows this.. The best evidence to this is Tensor Flow from google.. It's a platform to train these machines and then used the trained models to run on mobile devices directly without network activity.. I suggest you read up on Machine learning and AI. It doesn't have to be convienience vs privacy. We can have both. The new photos app in iOS is the first example of this.