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dysamoria said:

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Sigh. Yet more whining about bezel sizes. This is one of the stupidest “consumer complaints” I think I’ve seen, next to “it looks the same as last year’s model”.

The thinner machines get, the more thermal issues they have. The smaller the bezels get, the more difficult it is to prevent light bleed from the display backlights.

Please stop promoting the nonsense about needing smaller or zero bezels. It’s ludicrous.

I actually like the bezels. It's an eye break from the background. 

I have no problem buying an app from the App Store... but Apple should not collect on in-app purchases or subscriptions as they have provided no value to it. 
These developers have designed their own commerce systems at their expense... why should Apple get any piece of it when their system doesn't touch it? 
If the concern is that companies will make everything on the a App Store just a gateway - then Apple can charge the developers for hosting and marketing their products on the store - as the only way to download apps is through the store. 

macxpress said:

Fidonet127 said:

With the iMacs, the most the average person could do is replace the ram. With the old iMacs, you need suction cups to pull the glass, then carefully remove the display without damaging the cables, by removing the right star screws. Once you did all that, you could replace the hard drive and OWC has a kit to replace the CD drive with another hard drive. Then you had to do all that in reverse, without damaging anything to put it back together. But yes you could do more upgrading and it was a lot of fun. I still have my suction cup kit. 

Perhaps you could, but to others point, it was very rare and isn't worth Apple's time and money to engineer/design an AIO Mac for general consumers for the less than 1% of those who will actually do it. Some think its so easy for Apple to engineer the internals with expandable access areas and while it may seem so easy it may in fact not be. How much does it screw with the cooling? The structure of the case itself? The design overall? Etc...

The 2006-2012 Cheese graters were the best selling pro computers Apple ever released in the history of the company. So I guess that completely blows your entire argument out of the water.

sflocal said:

ajl said:

Another stupid choice from the think different verb preachers.

One should pay thousands for a machine that is supposed to last a lot years without any possibility of later upgrades?

People have a really short-term memory here.  Why this "anger" continues is beyond me.

It has been shown, written, along with the dead horse being beaten multiple times that most people will NEVER upgrade their PC/iMac after the initial purchase.  FACT.  

*facepalm* FACT: That's because Apple has made it impossible to upgrade their PC/iMac. FACT: When it wasn't a nightmare to upgrade your PC/iMac... people did it ALL THE TIME. Stop worrying about your stocks and start thinking about the planet. Apple is the least eco friendly tech company in the world. Fact.

aderutter said:

ajl said:

Another stupid choice from the think different verb preachers.

One should pay thousands for a machine that is supposed to last a lot years without any possibility of later upgrades?

One should spec an iMac machine to last. I always do and my non-upgraded Macs always last me at least 6 years.
The whole point of an “all in one” is a nicer looking machine while sacrificing upgradeability that most of us don’t need.
My 2014 iMac currently runs off a choice of external SSD drives so I can switch from High Sierra to Mojave to Catalina on a simple reboot.
This allows me to use 32 bit apps when necessary, old versions of XCode for older enterprise apps built with older SDKs etc. all with one 6 year old iMac.

Please explain why you have to integrate the ssd into the logic board - other than Apple can charge $3000 for a HDD repair because they are the only ones who can fix it. 

You are completely out of touch. Completely. 
Nobody is drinking Apple's Kool aid on this.