knowitall

osmartormenajr said:

knowitall said:

A shame Apple watch wasn't available at the time to save the day.
But seriously, you are aware that this is an argument meant for the occasion and of course entirely insincere?
Apple should be ashamed trying to unrail this initiative being on such a high moral ground regarding ethics in general and the environment in particular.
Apple likes to sell as many devices as possible and should be honest about that.

(By the way, I opened and ‘repaired’ several televisions in the past and had no problem or risk whatsoever. I lacked youtube then, but ‘repair instruction’ are all over the place (tube) now, so its so much easier and fun to do now, you should try it. Spreading FUD about repairs isn't a nice thing to do, I find that ‘professional’ people do that to ‘protect’ their trade. Shame on you.
Self repair and updates of my 2009 iMac for example made it last to now, I even run Final Cut X on it!)

By today's manufacturing practices, most repairs aren't technically feasible or economically viable. Take the iPhone X, it was the iPhone, until 6 months ago, when it went out of production. It had its year. Imagine having to pay for contractors to keep open lines of production for a very small demand of replacement parts, for 5–10 years. Or forcing the manufacturer to hold huge amounts of obsolete inventory parts. That's the equivalent of burning money. No business, big or small, will do that and expect to remain afloat.

The manufacturer (Apple or anybody else) may be found liable for accidents directly, or indirectly, related to the repair. Botched repairs can cause loss or compromise of data, which will be invariably dumped over to the manufacturer, not to Joe's iPhone Shop. Only here, on AI you can find dozens of examples, in the last couple of years, when a unauthorized repair caused trouble that was pinned on Apple.

I bought my first iPhone in March 2012, an iPhone 4S that served me well until May 2017, when its battery completely died out. Common sense dictated that the solution was to buy a newer one (that I did), instead of trying and repairing an unsupported 62 months old piece of hardware, from which I surely have enjoyed the full benefits from the money I've had spent.

I have an Airport Express about to make 10 years, and iPad 2 that just made 8, a 7 year old Apple TV (3rd gen), a 4 year old MBP and a 3 year old iPhone SE. It's this longevity and quality of solid products that I use daily that I expect from the premium I've been paying Apple. Not the availability of a box of parts to duct tape aging pieces of technology when they break, either due to carelessness, or to extreme old age.

And for your last, full paragraph in parentheses, all I have to answer is, look at your username. If you repair broken shit for a living, I hope your parents are proud. If you have the education to do that, then even more so. Now see who's expecting that this to represent the average customer, or the "trained technician" in Bumfuck, Wherever... And I'm spreading FUD. Protecting my professional interest??? It's not often that I brag, but I've been a tenured full professor of Electronic Engineering since I was 26. Last "repair" I've made was an electric shower for a cute girl on the college dorm...

osmartormenajr said:

Despite the fact that I'm an Electronic Engineer, on issues of consumer electronics products, I view myself as a consumer. I'm old enough to remember monthly news of people who have tried to repair their CRT televisions, and died because of it.

Most people, even (somewhat) educated ones, thought it would be like popping open the hood on their cars. Kill the engine and don't touch the hot parts and you'd be safe. Alas, the voltage multiplier charged the tube up to several thousands of volts, and the tube had enough capacitance to hold it after many hours of the plug being disconnected. The electric shock wasn't like touching a live wire, but it was enough to provoke heart fibrillation, which is invariably deadly without specialized medical attention.

Given time, Darwinism kicked in, and people learned that they should never, ever, open their TVs. Now, CRTs are a thing of the past, but people are willing to dick around lithium batteries... the next best thing to a bomb! The lucky ones will have a singed eyebrow to serve as a reminder, and probably will joke about it later. Burnt airways, lungs, and cornea, and/or facial disfigurement are harder to laugh about, though.

I can just see people (and courts) finding manufactures liable for providing the means for "I can do it 'meself'!" people to test their own stupidity. So, while lobbyists are not exactly an ethical/moral bunch, they are less sleazy than some (class-action) lawyers.

trashman69 said:

Cook: "This is one that I'm largely going to punt on."

Anyone know what does this means?