altivec88

Mikeymike said:

blastdoor said:

Watching Apple right now is like watching the X-Files in those years when they clearly had no idea where to take the show. 

How does it make sense to cancel a product like this (or displays) but keep a very niche product like Logic?

If you depend on any product from Apple other than the iPhone, iPad, or MacBook I suggest you start looking for alternatives because no matter how good the product is, no matter how popular within its market, and no matter how much you are willing to pay -- Apple can and in many cases will kill the product with no clear reason and no warning. 

People 'need' Logic.
Nobody 'needs' an Apple display (which is just a rebadged LG or something anyway), or an Apple router.

Why can't they do both like they have been doing for years?  Why is Apple hurting so bad that they need to cancel these products?

$200 billion in the bank, 115,000 employees.

and nobody can design an aluminum monitor frame with an apple logo and stick a panel from another manufacturer in it.

and don't have enough people to keep staff on the highest rated router.

and can't update their MacPro line for 3+ years even though intel updated the CPU twice with the same socket

and can't update their other desktops for years.

iPhone design has stayed the same for the last 3 years

iWatch 2 has the same design, ooooh ahhhh, they added a gps and made it thicker.

What the heck have they done with 100k+ employees in the past few years.  How can companies a fraction of Apple's size and much more limited resources make more products and keep them all current.   Man, when the iPhone party is over, Apple is going to be in some serious trouble.

Apple once was the creative content leaders.  As a company that deals with 3D rendering and visualization, how does Apple expect us to be working on AR/VR when they don't provide us with the tools.  The VR manufactures said they would develop for the Mac when Apple builds machines that are capable of VR.   As it stands their 3+ year old $10 000.00 MacPro's are not even good enough.

I guess when Apple decides that they want to be in AR/VR it will just happen like a light switch.   They are already years behind in hardware and us Mac content creators are even more behind than that because we can't even begin to experiment on this stuff.  Apple has already lost the AR/VR race and they didn't even get started yet.  But its nice to hear that they "expressed interest" and think its the future.   They're brilliant over there.

blastdoor said:

altivec88 said:

I wish you were right but I'm not be disingenuous at all. The MacPros they released in 2013 are the exact same ones they are selling today. No update, no speed bumps, nothing. and to top it all off, they are selling them at the same price as they were in 2013. Meanwhile, Dell, and HP have updated their competing workstations twice in that time. In other words, Intel has updated the processor that goes into the MacPro twice (E5v4 vs E5v2) but Apple chose to ignore to speed bump them.

Your post is 100% factual. Everything you say in this post is indisputable. Yet you got a "dislike" for it. I conclude that some people dislike facts that fail to fit with their opinions. i think that's a big part of why Kosh said that humans aren't ready for immortality and why a person paraphrasing a German physicist (never directly quote German physicists --paraphrase only) said that science progresses one funeral at a time.

Yah... This is the only site that I've seen that this happens.  Either there are a lot of Apple employees that lurk around here or these people don't really care about Apple at all.  Just a defend at all cost attitude around here.  When I think Apple can do better, I state my opinion.  Sometimes the truth hurts but its truthful critical comments that makes companies better, that is if they actually listen and care to improve.  The handling of the Mac Pro and the Pro market the last few years has been disappointing to say the least.  They either got to do way better or communicate that they are no longer interested in this market.  You are only as good as your weakest product and their neglect of the minis and pros are harming the entire brand.

My point about the currently selling 2013 MacPro becoming vintage soon is more to show the disarray in their computer line up than to say they will actually make it vintage.  If  their philosophy is that 5 year old tech is not good enough to support, then why are they selling 3+ year old tech as new.

I wish you were right but I'm not be disingenuous at all. The MacPros they released in 2013 are the exact same ones they are selling today. No update, no speed bumps, nothing. and to top it all off, they are selling them at the same price as they were in 2013. Meanwhile, Dell, and HP have updated their competing workstations twice in that time. In other words, Intel has updated the processor that goes into the MacPro twice (E5v4 vs E5v2) but Apple chose to ignore to speed bump them.