altivec88

Wow.  Some of you guys need to get off your high horse.   Fake news?  Really?   You guys come to a rumour site and complain about getting "fake news".  Rumours are based on speculation.  If that is something that bothers you then here is some advice, stay away from rumour sites.   I don't think we need the internet police crying about fake news here.

The facts remain "Apple re-assigned the router team" and to this point "Apple has not denied the end of life of these products even though it was heavily publicized that they are".  Based on those two facts, my conclusion matches those of Appleinsider and every other publication.  That is, Its highly probable that Apple is done with routers.  You are free to believe what you want.  If you need Apple to announce "we are done with routers" at one of their keynotes in order for you to believe it, then that's good for you.

But this isn't baseball, its business.   The stock markets react on future potential growth.  If you are having continued negative growth, investors move from your company to one that has positive growth.  You can't just compare Apple to other phone companies, you have to compare them to all companies.  If the new big thing is making plastic marbles and Apple isn't making them, investors move to a company that does make them.  You are naive if you think negative growth is okay to investors just because other companies are having negative growth too

Nobody is saying Apple is doomed and will be shutting down tomorrow.  Right now we are seeing the affects of Tim deciding to put all his eggs in the iPhone basket the past few years.  Its a slow process.  Just now, people are catching on that their other products have been completely neglected.  A lot of damage to their reputation has already occured because of this.  Its still fixable right now if they act quickly but if this neglect continues you can put a fork in their computer division.

wood1208 said:

sog35 said:

how many hours will Cook spend on this?

I'd say at least 12 hours, counting travel and prep. Does Cook really have 12 hours to waste on 'non essential' activity when the company is struggling? I don't know.

Apple is certainly not struggling.

Apple may not be struggling because their phones are keeping them up (at the moment).  Every other products is struggling do to neglect.   So I agree with sog35.  Does Apple really have time for Books, Christmas Trees, Politics, Activism, and now Speeches, when they are selling 3+ year old computers and can't find enough time to make a monitor case.   Yah,  Tim's decisions the last couple of years is not sitting very well with me either.   My only hope is that the iPhone flops sooner than later while there is still a chance to salvage the other products.  If they continue the path they are on, their will be very little else other than iPhone.

fastasleep said:

altivec88 said:

I wouldn't read too much into it.   There was a reference to a machine with 10 USB3 ports in El-Capitain over a year ago and nothing developed from it.   Since USB3 is considered obsolete to Apple, you will never see this so called 10 USB3 Mac.    

You realize the USB-C ports being used are USB3 as well, technically USB3.1 (which encompasses gen 1 and gen 2) but don't conflate USB-A connectors with the USB3 protocol. 

Yes... USB-3 devices can be used on USB-C but it doesn't work the other way around.  USB-C devices will not work on USB-3.  To further complicate things USB-C devices will work on TB3 but TB3 devices will not work on USB-C even though the connector is exactly the same.

Anyways...  If you are claiming that Apple will be putting in 10 TB3 - USB C ports I think that would be over kill but I'll be more than happy.   I'm thinking 6- TB3/USBC and 4 USB3 would be the more likely scenario.   That is, if they decide to release a MacPro soon.  Maybe we will be talking TB4 and USB D by the time they think the MacPro is a little outdated and in need of a refresh.

I wouldn't read too much into it.   There was a reference to a machine with 10 USB3 ports in El-Capitain over a year ago and nothing developed from it.   Since USB3 is considered obsolete to Apple, you will never see this so called 10 USB3 Mac.    Apple is so innovative right now, that their computers are becoming obsolete before they even release them.

Luckily we have the "can't innovate my ass" 3+ year old MacPro available to show us how its done.   Make sure you configure it with the $1000US (upgrade price) D700 that gets you a whopping 3.5 teraflops (you get two of them but you can count on 1 hand the number of software that supports dual cards).   Meanwhile you can buy the 9 teraflop Nvidia 1080 for under $600 (full price).  Oh yah... that's right,  Apple does not allow us to upgrade graphics cards in our workstations.  "can't innovate my ass"