singularity

tallest skil said:

singularity said:
Having a health care system such as the one in the UK doesn't equate to the country going bankrupt.

Not when someone else is footing the bill, no. Certainly you’re correct.
“It hasn’t happened yet, therefore it doesn’t look like it happens” isn’t much of an argument, but it’s at least better than what you’ve been (not been) providing.
I wouldn’t presume to be an authority on your system (other than knowing that socialism inevitably fails), so what are your thoughts on these points? Is there newer data to refute them?

68 years and counting for this "socialist" healthcare system and it still hasnt failed.
But due to constant political interference/improvements and constant changing the goalposts plus the abomination of ppp (public private partnership) and the way the NHS is "funded" amongst other things has led to the reported deficits.

Though there is one certainty any political party here that comes out and tries to introduce an American style system would be seeing their party doomed to extinction. We may bitch about the cost but the vast majority (except extreme free market nutjobs) of people want it kept and would prefer  a royal commission to ensure a sensible funding system. 

tallest skil said:

singularity said:
it does mean people don’t go bankrupt…

Just the country that provides the services.
Just the country.

Having a health care system such as the one in the UK  doesn't equate to the country going bankrupt. Last time I looked the UK was not bankrupt. Unless of course you can show it actually is.

still ranting and being abusive.
 keep up the foaming at the mouth.tallest skil said:

singularity said:

That goodness would be illegally invading a country, unleashing a sectarian civil war with no plan to stabilise the country.

Yes, that’s what the “refugees” are doing.
Yes, that’s what the refugees are doing.
Nah, try the fuck again. Human history didn’t begin on September 12, 2001.
Then don’t claim I’m wrong without evidence.
Try reading.
If in doubt, go fuck yourself. You’re a worthless, pathetic coward without fact or reason. You have no reply or rebuttal. You can’t even begin to think of one. So yes, go fuck yourself. I’m right and it hurts you to the core.
That has LONG been proven wrong.
So fucking what? Good people can only come from “democracies”? There’s a common thread here that is the problem. The solution was what we knew to do 900 years ago, for heaven’s sake.
Except it’s not possible in the slightest and it’s not fine in the slightest.

1.No the refugees are trying to escape from the bloodiest civil wars this century and are looking to get to a better life. You are in your twisted mind calling all refugees terrorists. 
2. no people belonging to a terrorist group are killing people and dont claim anyone is collateral damage.
3. I never claimed history began on 12-09-2011
4.what answers would you like, what are the questions? 
5. Reducing them and their families to smoldering ash would be an appropriate response.. your words
6. you believe you are right, i believe you are wrong. 

steveh said:

singularity said:

This is why I thank the gods I live in a country with a system where by my prescriptions are free for me and  the cost of prescription drugs are regulated ~$11 per item regardless of the drug if you don't qualify for free prescriptions.

So who is actually paying the real cost of your prescriptions? It has to be coming out of somebody's pocket somewhere; TANSTAAFL applies whether you like it or not, or whether or not you realize it.

Meanwhile, there's a good deal of padding going on with regards to our healthcare costs here, including prescription stuff. A lot of it being the government-mandated, end to end paperwork requirements from development through manufacture to delivery. People tend to forget that.

It's called universal health care paid through taxes. It's not perfect but it does mean people don't go bankrupt or worse die because they can't afford treatment though some here would scream socialism/communism buthe it does mean healthcare/insurance companies can't gouge people.
Also the NHS buys in bulk and can negotiate a much lower cost for drugs.

i see tallest is showing his usual kindness and humanity.

I would turn them away, with deadly force if necessary. If it was necessary for my nation–my people–to survive, I would gun them down where they stand. Every single last one of them.

Fuck these people. No, I do not care that they are suffering. I revel in it. Close the borders, deport the squatters and criminals, execute the disobedient, and sink a few “migrant” boats for good measure to send the message that such behavior will neither be tolerated nor rewarded. No more tolerance. No more aid. No more altruism. Our goodness has been met with sheer evil, our graciousness with contempt, and our existence with genocide. No more.

That goodness would be illegally invading a country, unleashing a sectarian civil war with no plan to stabilise the country.
Bombing innocent civilians, call them collateral damage and wondering why people might want revenge?

They’re lucky that we haven’t yet sought revenge. Reducing them and their families to smoldering ash would be an appropriate response–it’s what they would do to us, after all–and yet we only call for them to go back where they came from.

people like you are one of the reasons why this cycle of violence will always continue and yet you will always blame others without recognising your own culpability in the events.

I don't pretend to have the answers but your answer is just to kill, kill and kill again.  Fight fire by adding kerosene, its bound to go out.. honest!
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You’re fucking cowards, the lot of you. You’re too afraid to be responsible for your own personal security. You’re too afraid to even respond to an anonymous person on the fucking Internet when he posts a fact that hurts your worthless fucking feelings. You’d rather live in your (nightmare) fantasy world where your delusional bullshit is correct because you want it to be. And that’s why you will always, eventually, inevitably fail. Horribly.

If in doubt swear, as that's a sure fire way of winning an argument. Adding expletives just shows you have an extremely immature vocab'