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tallest skil said:

avon b7 said:

The EU may not be perfect but it is difficult to argue against it when you look at everything it has given us.

List those things. Enough with the platitudes. The time has come for socialists to put their ideology where their mouths are. Isn’t it funny, a ship that sinks from the top…

Guatenteed Paid maternity leave, paternity leave, protection on working hours, single market of over 500 million people. Erasmus programme; visa free movement. Freedom to live anywhere within the EU. Consumer rights, lower phone bills, lower mobile bills, good Safety standards set across the EU. Paid holiday of a minimum 4 weeks. Protection against discrimination. Clean givers and air. Privacy. Health and safety. Freedom of information 
And loads more all harmonised between 28 nations

That's been standard for a while in Europe. Brussels, dusseldorf, Dresden and Heathrow have all asked that you do that to any electronic items to be put in a tray for x-ray examination.

tallest skil said:

paxman said:

The European 'elite'? What the fuck does that mean?

The unelected European Commission which makes all your laws and over whom you have absolutely no say whatsoever. Surely you’re not so dense that you don’t know about them, right?

Governments elected by people make laws

Not your government. Unelected officials (the elite) make your laws. You have no say in it. You are a totalitarian oligarchy.

The EU’s standard decision-making procedure is known as 'Ordinary Legislative Procedure’ (ex "codecision"). This means that the directly elected European Parliament has to approve EU legislation together with the Council (the governments of the 28 EU countries).

Drafting EU law

Before the Commission proposes new initiatives it assesses the potential economic, social and environmental consequences that they may have. It does this by preparing 'Impact assessments' which set out the advantages and disadvantages of possible policy options.

The Commission also consults interested parties such as non-governmental organisations, local authorities and representatives of industry and civil society. Groups of experts give advice on technical issues. In this way, the Commission ensures that legislative proposals correspond to the needs of those most concerned and avoids unnecessary red tape.

Citizens, businesses and organisations can participate in the consultation procedure via the website Public consultations.

National parliaments can formally express their reservations if they feel that it would be better to deal with an issue at national rather than EU level.

Review and adoption

The European Parliament and the Council review proposals by the Commission and propose amendments. If the Council and the Parliament cannot agree upon amendments, a second reading takes place.

In the second reading, the Parliament and Council can again propose amendments. Parliament has the power to block the proposed legislation if it cannot agree with the Council.

If the two institutions agree on amendments, the proposed legislation can be adopted. If they cannot agree, a conciliation committee tries to find a solution. Both the Council and the Parliament can block the legislative proposal at this final reading.

The Parliament is elected and the Council is made up of the relevant ministers from governments of member states. 

I think it's time to nuke this thread from orbit.
The thought of treating people with respect and dignity over doing something as simple as going to the toilet brings out some pretty strange thoughts in some.

jSnively said:

Yeah, i thought more people would be psyched about it = P

I've almost given up on star wars. Rogue one has been the only decent sw film since empire.