brianm

Awesome - can get this setup for my Wife's Mac again.
It'll be nice to get control of some of the features of the additional buttons again

Yup, we ran into this, the version 4.37.2 (or later) fixed the issue, one system was already running the new version, but another setup a week or so earlier was running an affected version, was confusing, the developer thought it was catching something they were running in Docker, and not Docker itself.

sflocal said:

timmillea said:

The article is full of comments and opinions that will be out of date extremely soon. 

Apple subsidised the CD-ROM optical drive market before PC users knew of their existence and discontinued them just as PC users expected them as standard. Thunderbolt 5 is another forward-thinking but transitory spec. 

The Mac Studio has always been a hideous monstrosity and the kindest thing would be to end it. The new Mac mini, finally relieved in terms of historic size requirements to accommodate an optical drive is the way to go. The Mac Studio was half marketing and half a cover-up over the lack of a new Mac Pro. Apple have made plenty of missteps with Mac over the last five or so years. They make their money from iPhone and 'services' now and appear to have betrayed their core DNA. 

While I do believe the Mac Studio was a Mac Pro replacement, I don't see how a footprint the size of the Mac mini will handle the higher thermal temps of the Max/Ultra chips.  I see the Mac Studio continuing with the higher-tier chips.

Apple will have to do something groundbreaking to continue with the Mac Pro.   

Having done a fair bit of testing of the M4 and M4 Pro mini's, you are correct.  Even with High Performance on with the M4 Pro where it is an option to get the aggressive fan (which gets audible) - the M4 Pro still gets hot  to the touch (and internal temperatures) under sustained usage.
The hot to touch is likely because the power supply is directly under the top surface, and it has also picked up the M4/M4 Pro heat (from CPU, GPU or both) that then combines with the power supply heat before getting directed out the bottom back.

By comparison, even under sustained load the M2 Max in a Mac Studio barely needs to raise fan speeds to keep the chips running at a steady temperature - the air coming out the back barely gets warm, the Ultra gets a bit warmer and the fans go a bit faster to keep it steady - but fans still not audible in any sustained performance testing I've done if you are in anything other than a completely quiet room. (I'd suspect they designed for the Ultra, then found they could use the cheaper aluminum heatsink for the Max to save money and still was more than needed to keep it cool - also avoiding the problem with the 2013 Mac Pro where the central cooling system was pretty much at it's thermal limit with the chips at the time - so couldn't scale to more powerful GPUs or CPUs as their power requirements kept climbing)

The Mac Studio general design is a good system for those that need the Chip/ram performance of the Pro tower, without the need of PCIe cards. - at a cheaper price.  When upgrading my own home system, I opted for almost the base model M2 Max Studio instead of an upgraded M2 Pro Mac mini - more performance for around the same price, and it had better cooling. especially when I found a refurb of the specs I wanted in the Studio to save more.

Geekbench performance for the M4's are showing up now.

Not as dramatic as the Estimates on your charts, but still good improvements.  It will be a very capable system.
M4 3700-4000 single core, around 15,000 multi-core is close.
metal score of around 58,000

M4 Pro Multi-core hits around 22,000 and Metal it hits around 110,000

Of course, those are just benchmarks, and not real-world apps.  So with some real-world tasks, maybe they hit closer to the 2-3x claims Apple has.

88ip said:

My Logitech wireless mouse has the charging port on the bottom ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Weird, what model is it?  I haven't run across any other brand/model yet that had the charging port on the bottom. (not just as a user, but as someone who does IT support for companies and individuals)