hopestillflies

Stabitha_Christie said:

I’m curious what happens to the Walmart MacBook Air. 699 for an M1 is seeming less compelling now. 

It grows older with each new generation and with the lower starting price now, it is a little less compelling. But it has actually been $629 for a while now and honestly I'm still recommending it to people. It's still a great machine for what a lot of people do (web, email, documents) and you're still usually saving at least $200 from a newer gen even when they're on sale (if buying new and not a refurb). 

cincytee said:

I, too, am not thrilled about this release. I'm quickly approaching the "no choice but to upgrade" point with my iPhone SE (just plain SE, as in, the original) because apps are starting to drop support. I just want as close to the same experience as I can get. That's not going to be a 16e. And I don't want to buy an SE3 that's years old the day it's bought. C'mon, Apple, there are people of folks that want quality without all the bells and whistles.

An SE3 would be a great upgrade from your SE1 and you can get a refurb for under $200. The SE3 might be a few years old but it's still got at least a couple more years of the latest OS updates to go. With Apples history, there may be another SE in a couple years.
- SE1 launched in 2016
- SE1 spec bumped in 2017
- SE1 discontinued in 2018 when the Xr (the 16e's real predecessor) was launched
- No SE for two years
- SE2 launched in 2020 
- SE2 updated to SE3 in 2022 (same form factor, but a little more than just the spec bump of the first gen SE)
- SE3 discontinued in 2025 when the 16e was launched

So this 16e seems more in common with the Xr. In naming, features, and pricing. The first SE was “discontinued” just before the Xr was released in 2018. But then in 2020 we got the SE 2. Maybe the 16e is not an SE replacement at all. Maybe there will still be an SE 4 in the future 

danox said:

hopestillflies said:

How long can I expect to still get OS updates for my 12 mini? Looks like I’m gonna be hanging on for as long as I can. 

I have an 11 Pro iPhone you’re in a better position than I am, don’t cry……

I promised myself I wouldn't cry...   ...  ... 

However, I'm definitely looking into the most economical way to swap to a 13 mini just to squeak out another year. But also, I live in the U.S. so society as we know it probably won't make it that far and what kind of phone I have likely will be the least of my concerns.

Rogue01 said:

surgefilter said:

iPhone 12 Mini still blows 16e to pieces 

LOL.  The iPhone 12 mini had the worst battery life of any phone Apple made, and combined with the iPhone 13 mini, both models only amounted to 5% of all iPhone sales.  You can say it was the worst phone Apple ever made, next to the 5c, which is why Apple killed it.  

Ok, so yeah that original statement does seem a bit over the top. But I’m still using my 12 mini with the original battery. Health is reading 79% and yet it’s not causing me any issues. I often go the day without needing to recharge. I’m hanging on to this thing as long as I possibly can. I’m 6’2 and have rather large hands and I’m just baffled at how people  prefer bigger phones. My naked 12 mini looks startlingly tiny when next to most any other phone and yet still always feels bigger than a pocketable handheld device should be. Maybe by the time it totally gives out there will be a cheap 16e refurb market. Then I’ll have to go up in size but at least it’ll be cheaper. OR the Apple Watch will be a true standalone device by then and I can just forego a phone (the dream that will never come true)