jbdragon

Google of Facebook posting snips of news from other sources, is not posting news.  They shouldn't be charged for this.  The fact they do this brings people directly to the source of the news if they want to get the full story.  

The simple fact is, any of these NEWS sites can easily throw up a ROBOT.TXT file onto their site and Google and other places will not grab anything from their site.  Why don't they do this?  Because Google and Facebook and others drive traffic to their website!!!  It's been shown from other countries doing this same type of thing, The news form them gets dropped and their traffic takes a huge hit.  So these companies want it both ways.  They love the traffic Google brings them, but they also want Google and others to also pay them for doing that.  When they could at any time, 100% stop Google and Facebook, and others from getting a single clip of news from them.  If Canada wants to follow through and do this dumb thing, great.  Google and Facebook can stop any and all news from Canada.  They won't see a penny from then and their news sites will take a huge hit.  No more links going to them so people can read the whole story.   Oh well,.... 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt

I haven't used TikTok ever and have no plans to ever use it.   I don't think it should be banned anywhere than from Government use.    Then again I don't think government phones just have much of anything on it, then what is required.  You have your Government phone for work, you have your own personal phone for outside of work.

Xed said:

gatorguy said:

GeorgeBMac said:

Meanwhile Australian media are taking the same approach but from the opposite end -- saying that Google owes them for publishing their information on Google searches.

Not just Google but any search provider (Bing, DDG, etc) who surfaces news snippets as a search result. 

Right. There is a long history of not being able to recreate and use another's IP without consent, but all search engines do that constantly and to an excessive degree. At least when you upload your content to FB and Instagram you have to first agree to terms that include giving up rights to what you submit, but I see none of that with search engines grabbing every single piece of information they can from my web servers for their personal gain.

Google's News clips bring a lot of traffic to these news sites.  Which is why they still complain when Google stops showing any new clips.  By the way, any site can add a simple ROBOT.TXT file and 100% stop Google or anyone else going to their site and grabbing anything.  ZERO, NADA, Nothing!!!  Why don't they do it?  Because they want Google to grab those clips and also for Google to pay for them.  So they want Google to pay for it and drive customers to their own site.  They want it both ways.

https://backlinko.com/hub/seo/robots-txt

I have a couple Homepod's and they are nice devices. With 2 as a Sterno Pair they sound even louder, and you can really hear the separation from left to right. They sound fantastic. I guess you can link them to your AppleTV for TV Speakers, though that would only work when using the AppleTV, seems a waste when you could just get a soundbar for your TV.

My new Samsung 75" QLED TV has built in AppleTV+ and AirPlay2. Of course going 4K, I needed a replacement Surround Sound Receiver which should show up today, a Denon AVR-X3600H. That I know supports Siri and AirPlay2. I want to get some new Speakers also and with Atmos. For Christmas I had my 2 HomePods linked to the AppleTV playing Apple Music Christmas songs throughout my house all in Sync. At first it was a bit out of sync. But once I looked up online, I found out how to sync things up which was pretty simple and then all was good.

While a HomePod Mini may come out? I think Apple is still going to charge way to much for it. It's just not going to be anywhere near $50. I think it'll run $149-$199 knowing Apple. I think it'll be on the high end.

Apple needs to open it up to be more of a Smart Speaker. Apple limits it. As typical of Apple, it's the same old device year after year with very little of a price drop. it's not like Apple releases a new version every year. It's been over 2 years and it's the same old HomePod and still only the 1. Google has what, 3 of them? So they cover all the price points. Amazon has to many to count. I have one of their Echo Show 8's. That is my bedside alarm clock. So I'm talking to Alexa because Apple has nothing but a Homepod in this area and I want a Display. The Low price point makes it a winner. Can you imagine using a iPad for a bedside alarm clock. Expensive and a waste. It works with Apple Music which is my default. I have a Echo Dot 3rd generation, and Alexa built into my Ecobee 4. You almost can't get away from Alexa it's all over the place.

it was Apple who came out with Siri FIRST before Google, Before there was a Alexa. Then Apple wasted their lead. While I prefer my Apple Watch for Siri control as it's always with me. Not having anything low cost in this area is greatly hurting Apple. Sometimes I wander if Apple has any kind of goal. Am I making a mistake having a growing Homekit house, so should have I went with Alexa? It's like Apple doesn't care. They throw something out there, great, and others then follow and Apple doesn't seem to do anything past that point while everyone else is. I don't know if Google is pushing much more that Apple, but Amazon, Push, Push, Push.

I had gotten the new Echo Show 5, it was a little small, but the 8 wouldn't be out until late in the month last year. I used the 5 for a few weeks, easily returned it and got the Echo Show 8, which is a nice size for my bedside table. I can have it wake me up in the morning playing some Apple Music. It's really nice saying "Alexa Snooze" or "Alexa Snooze 5 minutes" Don't have to reach out to hit some button. Maybe I'm more old school and people just use their phones for Alarm Clocks?

rotateleftbyte said:

It seems that Google has joined the 'Do it our way or not at all!' club.

Current members include Microsoft, Oracle and Facebook.

Building totally incompatible ecosystems is the 'their way'!

Apple is just as guilty also!!!  You also forgot Amazon!!!  They're all trying to lock you into their Ecosystem.  I get it.   Every company would like to lock you in.  Those on the outside will support everyone like my EcoBee.  Supports Apple's Homekit, Amazon Alexa, Google, SmartThings, and IFTTT.   I think Amazon and Google have been more in your face in acquiring these hardware company's and locking them down to only their system.  Or it's just the 2 of them, always seeming to leave Apple Homekit out.  There really is no excuse for that these days.