minisu1980

If I have this right the two big complaints about this Macbook Pro is that it won't take more than 16GB of RAM and pricing. I believe the RAM limit was due to Intel's design yet it seems that this is somehow Apple's fault. The price complaint is nothing new, it always amazes me that people can't grasp the concept that a premium product costs more money. You could argue that this is not a premium product because of x, y and z but if you truly feel this way then why should the price even matter to you. In other words if you decided you can only work with a pro product, and in your opinion the Macbook Pro is not a pro product, then why does the cost of a consumer offering make a difference to you.

What was Apple's alternative, wait for Intel to get their act together and further delay a much needed refresh. I hope this will really be a push to replace Intel with the A series.

bnd10706 said:

I love my macs but its hard to justify the price points when I could get a pretty bad ass windows laptop with much better processing power and graphics power for $1500.

That would then run Windows, thus negating the increases in both graphics and processing, then add on the performance hit from whatever anti-virus your going to run. On top of that you will likely be buying another Windows laptop in less than 4 years, not quite the ROI you got with your Macbook. I understand being cost conscious, but you should look at the life cycle of the unit when determining true cost of ownership.

Blunt said:

I won't buy one because my six years old Macbook Pro is still going strong. Never had to hard reboot it once, never had mallware or a virus. The only problem was a defect video card which was replaced for free in two days. My friends Windows laptop took a month to fix. Macs save you so much time compared to Windows shit.

I was a Windows/PC enthusiast for over 20 years, then bought I bought an iMac and never looked back. The amount of crap that you have to deal with on a PC is ridiculous in comparison to a Mac. Now when people ask me to fix their PCs I just tell them to donate it and buy a Mac, saves them time, money and frustration . I'm running an 11 year old iMac, albeit with maxed RAM and SSD, as my primary computer because it refuses to slow down or die. This is the first OS release that is not supported which will be the reason I'll buy a new iMac when they get released. The old one will be given away to some friends of mine who made the mistake of buying a new Windows PC 2 years ago.

gumbi said:

minisu1980 said:

I see Touch ID being the biggest reason for this update. Eventually it will replace username and password on the web which will be an end game move on the competition. Remembering usernames and passwords on websites, resetting them, having accounts compromised by software capturing key strokes or fishing scams are BY FAR the largest complaint/problem/annoyance the average computer user has. Solve this pain point few people would even look at another platform. 

See "Windows Hello".  MS has already got this covered.

Covered so well I've never even heard of it before you mentioned it. Just from a cursory web search it looks like a technology that will go nowhere and even if it did it would still be riddled with the same fundamental security problems that come with using a computer who's OS is a Frankenstein's monster type amalgamation of shitty bolted on code. Not trying to be a jerk here, I spend many years of my life dealing with peoples Windows/PC problems both personally and professionally. Now that my friends and family all have macs I get called maybe once a year; not with a "my computer is broken/not working" type question but a hey "I want to store some photo's on an external disk drive, since there is not an Apple branded one which one should I get".

I see Touch ID being the biggest reason for this update. Eventually it will replace username and password on the web which will be an end game move on the competition. Remembering usernames and passwords on websites, resetting them, having accounts compromised by software capturing key strokes or fishing scams are BY FAR the largest complaint/problem/annoyance the average computer user has. Solve this pain point few people would even look at another platform.