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  • Google staves off Oracle code copyright claim

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    ericthehalfbee said:
    We knew this was coming. Aslup is biased (and pissed the Appeals Court reversed his previous decision) so he made sure to inject his bias into this trial (namely the jury instructions).

    Oracle will have to appeal again (and win again) before this gets settled.
    And the appeals court you mention of, the CAFC, has had their rulings rebuffed many times by the Supreme Court.

    Trust me, you don't want it any other way. Apple is currently fighting patent trolls that past rulings by the CAFC made possible. You know, trolls like VirnetX.

    If the case went to the 9th circuit, past decisions were in favor of using apis. It only went to the CAFC due to a patent dispute, even though not appealed.
    gatorguy

  • Google staves off Oracle code copyright claim

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    auxio said:
    nextguy said:
    Guys, why are you cheering Oracle? Have you so quickly forgotten that Apple's OSX and by extenstion, ios, use POSIX style APIs all the way back from unix, and that Attachmate is the current owner?

    Oh but Apple took it from BSD you say. So what? Google took theirs from Apache Harmony, another BSD style licensed software.

    You really want Apple having to fight off a potential jury since APIs are being infringed?
    I agree that Oracle shouldn't have tried to go the API copyright route.  I never really understood that line of argument.

    However, the core people at Google know damn well what they did is shady.  They needed to quickly get a software development environment for Android, and instead of going with something truly open and spending the time/resources in polishing it for commercial use (as NeXT/Apple did with Objective-C), or licensing it from someone, they simply "cloned-and-owned" Java.  They took advantage of the investment Sun had made in creating, refining, and popularizing Java amongst developers, without paying them a dime in licensing fees (as other companies were doing).  In turn, killing the core business model for Java.

    Sorry, but anyone who works in tech and doesn't see that as a sleazy, bad-for-the-industry, dick move deserves to lose their job/business to a knock-off company.
    They used apache harmony as their base, not JavaSE. If that's the case Oracle should sue the Apache Foundation for hosting material and allowing people to copy Java.

    Of course, Sun and now Oracle, have thing thing called openjdk which has those same api's on a GPL and a classpath exemption, so really, Oracle has no rightful reason to be angry with someone "stealing" Java when they give it away themselves!
    freshmaker

  • Google staves off Oracle code copyright claim

    nextguynextguy
    Guys, why are you cheering Oracle? Have you so quickly forgotten that Apple's OSX and by extenstion, ios, use POSIX style APIs all the way back from unix, and that Attachmate is the current owner?

    Oh but Apple took it from BSD you say. So what? Google took theirs from Apache Harmony, another BSD style licensed software.

    You really want Apple having to fight off a potential jury since APIs are being infringed?
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