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elijahg said:

macplusplus said:

elijahg said:

macplusplus said:

iOS DOES have an open file system. Every app’s every file is open to every other app. Simply its organization is different. It just doesn’t have the desktop metaphor, that’s all. For those who want to access to kexts, drivers, daemons and alike, the point is for what? Get a conventional computer for deep UNIX work, on that sort of computer called iPad, the operating system does not permit to access its guts, take it or leave it...

If the point is to easily assemble files in folders per project or task basis, then there is the Files app and iCloud. One no longer needs to keep Pages documents in the Pages app’s directory, these days have long gone. Yet iOS does not prevent anyone from using third party file storage and sharing systems, such as Dropbox, OneDrive or Google Drive. There’s no sharing in Cloud Drive but alternatively Apple provides full collaboration in its productivity apps, which is multiple times better than that primitive form of collaboration called file sharing.

Try moving 20 files from one folder to another in the Files app. Let me know how long it takes you. 

So what? That will depend on the size of the files, obviously...

So you've not tried it, as expected. You don't actually use the iPad for anything more than light work do you - if at all? If you did, you'd know you actually can't move 20 files at once from one folder to another. You have to move each manually. It's a pig of a job.

GeorgeBMac said:

virgilisleading42 said:

Please please add a trackpad to the add on keyboard. The irony about what Craig Federighi statement: “We really feel that the ergonomics of using a Mac are that your hands are rested on a surface, and that lifting your arm up to poke a screen is a pretty fatiguing thing to do.” is that is exactly what they've created with an ipad pro because they wont allow for a trackpad or mouse to be attached just a keyboard. Please please allow us to add one Apple.

Add a trackpad?

THEY DID!   THEY DID THAT ALREADY!   (at least for typing)

mac_128 said:

GeorgeBMac said:

virgilisleading42 said:

Please please add a trackpad to the add on keyboard. The irony about what Craig Federighi statement: “We really feel that the ergonomics of using a Mac are that your hands are rested on a surface, and that lifting your arm up to poke a screen is a pretty fatiguing thing to do.” is that is exactly what they've created with an ipad pro because they wont allow for a trackpad or mouse to be attached just a keyboard. Please please allow us to add one Apple.

Add a trackpad?

THEY DID!   THEY DID THAT ALREADY!   (at least for typing)

While typing on either the iPhone or the iPad, hold the space bar down for a second or two and the keyboard is replaced with a touchpad.

So, now the question is:  "When will they provide that ability to an external touchpad?"

The question is no longer IF but WHEN?

Detailed instructions on how to do this are from CNBC:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/19/how-to-use-iphone-keyboard-like-a-mouse-by-holding-space-button.html

I pointed this out earlier. This is from Apples website:

You guys seem very resolute about keeping your iPads all the time on your desks but this is not what the iPad is for. The iPad that sits all the time on a desk is no longer an iPad, it is just a less capable laptop. You'd do better with a true laptop in that case.

Besides, a trackpad's resolution never compares to the resolution of the iPad on top of which the Touch interface is built. This is why your fingers, so dumb and rough on the trackpad become magically precise when using iMovie on the iPad. This is also what makes playing 3D games on the iPad possible, with a trackpad you can never play 3D games as fluently as you can on the iPad.

ireland said:

rogifan_new said:

Why are people so offended by iPad and the term computer? It’s so bizarre to me how much iPad upsets some people. But it’s not like Apple has put a gun to your head and said you can only use iPad. If it doesn’t work for you use something else.

In part I believe what’s bothering people so much is the price of an iPad Pro considering how the software works.

Considering that the software works excellently and identically to their desktop counterparts (AutoCAD, MS Office, GarageBand, iMovie, Pages, Number, Keynote, Pixelmator, the incoming Photoshop...) and even more precisely and creatively thanks to Pencil, the price of the iPad Pro is actually bargain.

ireland said:

andrehinds said:

So many people complain that the iPad Pro can't replace their computer. Well, it's true that the iPad Pro can't REPLACE their computer, but remember this. In 1984, the 128K Macintosh couldn't replace my IBM Selectric typewriter. For instance, where do you put the piece of paper? What? You have to buy something extra to print something out? Well, that's not a replacement! Therefore, the Macintosh must have been garbage! It's now 2018, and I haven't used an IBM Selectric in 31 years. One of these days, I will no longer use a Macintosh. This isn't that day, but it's coming sooner than you expect. And some of the reasons are explained in this commercial.

The difference is the IBM you mentioned could do less things than a Mac, but a Mac can do more things can an iPad and faster. So your analogy isn’t a great one. When I say faster I don’t mean processor speed, but power and precision.

Not always. With Pencil you get better precision than the mouse or trackpad. Even a Wacom tablet can't get that close considering other usage cases of Pencil and the mobility the iPad provides.

netrox said:

The headline implies Apple is promoting iPad Pro as a laptop repaclemnt but nowhere did the commercial say that. It merely said that it can be your next computer. My "next computer" is my iPad Pro 11. iPad can be the next computer for many people but it won't be the primary computer for me as a software developer. I must have macOS with Intel inside. iPad Pro is DEFINTELY more powerful than most laptops but the iOS is nowhere as powerful as MacOS.

Yes. For those who want to experience the power of  full macOS in an iPad footprint there is the Retina Macbook. Still not satisfied? Then there is the new Macbook Air. If iPads were a “replacement” then none of these Macbooks would exist. Apple just offers an alternative. Alternative does not mean “necessity”.

larrya said:

radarthekat said:

iPad has always been about how the tools we use for doing work change according to the work we need to do, and that in turn changes the work we do, to take advantage of the tools available.  

In 1960, it took a roomful of people with mechanical calculators on their desks to do the work that later generations could easily perform with a spreadsheet.  But when spreadsheets and other business applications came along, the work they made possible was wholly different from the problem they were initially designed to solve.

iPads, and specifically the iPad Pro, is not designed to do the same work that a PC traditionally did.  Those who are suggesting the iPad Pro is a poor replacement for a PC are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.  The tablet form factor has its own destiny, which will take on many, but not all the tasks of a PC, while enabling new forms of work and productivity that PCs are less adapted to accommodate.

I am not a power user. My iMac is almost 8 years old. Yet, the iPad Pro cannot replace it. I bought a drone, which got me into light video editing with iMovie. The thought of trying to do this on my iPad with my fingers, after importing from the sd card hanging in a dongle, horrifies me.  I use spreadsheets a lot for budgeting and comparison shopping, but I’m not too interested in reaching across a keyboard to select cells.  Writing letters and documents is probably fine; but again, text selection with my arm suspended horizontally is not ideal (just editing this comment on my non-pro iPad sucks).  

So, what work is there are that an iPad Pro is so well-suited for that us old fogies are not able to grasp?  it’s not productivity software. It’s not movie editing. Maybe it’s drawing or something?  How many cartoonists and graphic artists and part-time DJs can Apple sell these to?

Actually you own the best products of both platforms and you have nothing to worry about besides getting more fluent in both that I believe certainly you will. I edit this on my non-pro iPad too and without Pencil or stylus. It just works (not the forum editor, the iPad). I record a lot of videos from YouTube on it and trim both ends of the clips with my fingers. I wonder how my big fingers not so precise on my MBP’s trackpad becomes so precise on the iPad. I admit that spreadsheet work is hard and you need a lot of display to see the whole worksheet at once. But even in the limited display of the iPad it is a pleasure to work in Numbers provided that you get used to. It may be confusing at first because there is so much parameters for formatting and calculations and you may not figure out immediately what is where. The accurate touch interface of iOS is what makes working with cells so easy. Are any of these shortcomings? Well maybe, depending on the lifestyle and work habits. But despite all of those limitations you get an unprecedented mobility and versatility in organizing your daily tasks, which make the iPad a correct investment.