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MplsP said:

entropys said:

That is just embarrassing.too soon. And I say this as someone who uses an iPad Pro for mobile work purposes for hours each day.   Apple needs to supersede the software limitations of iOS before it can try this line on with any credibility.

Mr Cook should just tap his heels together three times and repeat:

”I don’t have Steve’s Reality Distortion Field”
”I don’t have Steve’s Reality Distortion Field”
”I don’t have Steve’s Reality Distortion Field”

Edit: I can can see the future myriad parody versions already.
edit2: to replace computers the tag line should be “better than a computer”. But only once it is true. We aren’t there yet.

yojimbo007 said:

Close... but not before there is a core comprehensive, roubust file/folder management system with a consitant UI at the heart of ios.. accessible from every app for all types of files. Lack of this is a massive handicap... plus the restricted usb-c io

Exactly. The iPad is perfectly capable of being a very powerful laptop replacement, but it's still hamstrung by iOS. iOS 11 was a huge leap forward with the files app, better ability to multitask, etc. Unfortunately it still has significant limitations in terms of capabilities and usability Apple just needs to mature things a bit more. 

Everyone keeps saying things like "it can be a laptop replacement for some people," which is true. That's true of any device if your demands are limited enough. Heck, some people can replace their laptop with an iPhone. The problem here is that apple is marketing the iPad as a laptop powerful machine that can be a replacement for everyone and overpromising. In doing so they risk alienating a lot of people by selling them a $1500 machine that doesn't do what they promise it can.

I remember when that first narration has appeared and that was discussed here too. Schiller never said “everyone” in that Keynote, he said “many” or “...for many”. At least semantically there is nothing wrong with that first formulation. That may virtually “alienate” only first time computer buyers, which are mostly millenials, to whom you must really explain why a computer is better (is it?) than a PS4. Millenials don’t give a shit about trackpad, mouse or keyboard, they have smartphones and game controllers. They even use the iPad or a trackpad with both hands, they’re kinda different creatures, their brains are already wired differently...

I still can admit that it may have created some confusion in non-millenials, but not as much to justify that hate speech. Because Apple maintains a consistent product strategy with clearly defined product specs and fixed architecture with well defined limits. That helps the confused to come to a correct decision about a laptop or iPad.

entropys said:

Apple wants you to “tag” related files rather than chuck them in a user created folder with related Files. No extra effort or planning at all. /sarc

You don’t need the sarcasm tag, you’re already a joke with that. You can create as many folders as you want on iCloud Drive in Files app. If you use another file management app you can create folders in that too, and use them in Files app.

entropys said:

I was around in 1984 Andre. The usability of the Mac compared with IBM PCs was so unbelievablely wonderful, any other deficincies, minor as they were, were irrelevant. Because Daleks.

The ipad doesn’t yet offer enough of a marriage between functionality and paradigm shift to justify Apple’s claims.  Bu fear not, the problem is software limitations, which can be fixed.

With all due respect for people’s natural rights to request improvements from Apple, I believe that the shortcomings of iPad are over-emphasized. None of these are dealbreakers.

The usability iOS is so unbelievably wonderful that Steve Jobs made the iPhone a reality, just remembering that will resume all that reality distorsion field saga.

Apple has no claims to be justified further, hundreds of millions of sales prove that. Attacking the platform just on the basis of a marketing narration is futile, because the products are there, sales reports are there and there is not even a competition in the iPad case after eight years.

iOS DOES have an open file system. Every app’s every file is open to every other app. Simply its organization is different. It just doesn’t have the desktop metaphor, that’s all. For those who want to access to kexts, drivers, daemons and alike, the point is for what? Get a conventional computer for deep UNIX work, on that sort of computer called iPad, the operating system does not permit to access its guts, take it or leave it...

If the point is to easily assemble files in folders per project or task basis, then there is the Files app and iCloud. One no longer needs to keep Pages documents in the Pages app’s directory, these days have long gone. Yet iOS does not prevent anyone from using third party file storage and sharing systems, such as Dropbox, OneDrive or Google Drive. There’s no sharing in Cloud Drive but alternatively Apple provides full collaboration in its productivity apps, which is multiple times better than that primitive form of collaboration called file sharing.

Mike Wuerthele said:

macplusplus said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

Subrandom said:

FWIW, Duet is working perfectly for me on a 2018 MBP with both an iPad 12.9" 2nd Gen and the just released 3rd Gen. Now, I use it only as a second display, and I don't tap on the iPad to send commands to the MBP, but in that capacity at least, there are issues with lag or screen dragging as suggested, even across an entire workday of use.

In our conversations with the developer, the problems seem to be hit-or-miss. However, given that it is not a universal solution, we can't recommend it right now. We'll revisit after we see any updates.

Once the truat issue between the Mac and iPad connected on USB is resolved, Duet seems working. If trust is not established then the Mac may drop the USB connection intermittently or repeatedly. The cure is to reset Location & Privacy on iOS device, restart both ends and "Trust this computer" again (trying with a 3d party Lightning cable may help in some cases).

Yep, we tried that. It isn't a universal fix, and doesn't stay fixed. We just can't recommend it right now. Maybe in a patch or two, but not today.

I have one more question if you don't mind:

Did you attach the new iPad Pro to the new Mac Mini with a USB-C cable? If so:
1) Trust issue? Is there any problem?
2) iTunes: did the iPad appear in iTunes and sync, backup, file sharing, everything worked as usual?
3) Quicktime Player: can QT Player accept the iPad Pro as both video and audio source? At what resolution does it record?
4) Duet: did it appear in Displays menu and worked even with failures?