dantheman827

KTR said:

dantheman827 said:

darkvader said:

So, this is a mistake.  Not because it's not a good idea, but because it doesn't solve the actual problem:  It's MY iPhone, not Apple's iPhone.  I should be able to install apps from any source of MY choosing.

Sure, Apple forcing payments to only go through them and taking a cut is illegal tying and should never have been allowed in the first place, but so is preventing me from going to the developer's website, downloading an app, and installing it, with no interaction with Apple whatsoever.  Apple shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, video game consoles shouldn't be able to get away with it, any manufacturer selling hardware with a lock-in for future purchases should be stopped and in Apple's case the fines for illegal tying should be in the billions.

The US bill also includes a requirement for sideloading.

And who should pay for the damages if your phone gets compromised?  Should Apple, just because ?  Should Google ? Should the software company? 

Absolutely no one, you would be the one that installed the software and gave it permissions to access the data in the first place.

All software on iOS runs inside of the same sandbox, this is what grants or denies access to parts of the phone like location, photos, and so on.

entropys said:

The Reagan version of the little red hen is below. It was read on radio in 1976, a time when policies were being implemented leading to sclerosis of the economy, rising inflation and unemployment, and the USA was being regarded as has beens on the international front. I am so tempted to draw parallels with policies today, but hey, just because it didn’t work previously doesn’t mean it won’t work now the right people are in charge, eh?:

Once upon a time there was a little red hen who scratched about the barnyard until she uncovered some grains of wheat. She called her neighbors and said ‘If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant it?’

“Not I, “said the cow.

“Not I,” said the duck.

“Not I,” said the pig.

“Not I,” said the goose.

“Then I will,” said the little red hen. And she did. The wheat grew tall and ripened into golden grain. “Who will help me reap my wheat?” asked the little red hen.

“Not I,” said the duck.

“Out of my classification,” said the pig.

“I’d lose my seniority,” said the cow.

“I’d lose my unemployment compensation,” said the goose.

“Then I will,” said the little red hen, and she did.

At last the time came to bake the bread. “Who will help me bake bread?” asked the little red hen.

“That would be overtime for me,” said the cow.

“I’d lose my welfare benefits,” said the duck.

“I’m a dropout and never learned how,” said the pig.

“If I’m to be the only helper, that’s discrimination,” said the goose.

“Then I will,” said the little red hen.

She baked five loaves and held them up for the neighbors to see.

They all wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen said, “No, I can eat the five loaves myself.”

“Excess profits,” cried the cow.

“Capitalist leech,” screamed the duck.

“I demand equal rights,” yelled the goose.

And the pig just grunted.

And they painted “unfair” picket signs and marched round and around the little red hen shouting obscenities.

When the government agent came, he said to the little red hen, “You must not be greedy.”

“But I earned the bread,” said the little red hen.

“Exactly,” said the agent. “That’s the wonderful free enterprise system. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations productive workers must divide their products with the idle.”

And they lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, “I am grateful, I am grateful.” But her neighbors wondered why she never again baked any more bread.

But any of the farm animals can plant their own wheat, and make their own bread if they wanted...

How much would you need to even think of entering the mobile OS market? No one would buy your phone because there would be no apps, no developer would make software for your phone because there would be no users, and you wouldn't be able to find additional funding for R&D because you have no sales.

There's only room in the market for those who started it, no one else has the capital, not even Microsoft.

This is why at minimum, they need to allow on-device installation of apps and app stores from outside of the first-party option.

There needs to be competition, not just two companies acting as one and mirroring the actions of one another.

There needs to be regulation of App Stores and the ability to install competing ones or the ability to just forego the store entirely and distribute directly.

9secondkox2 said:

Good 

the whole thing is wrong. 

“Oh. There’s a new disease. So we must track you. And we need to know your movements as well as those of your contacts.” RIIIIGHT… that’s going to end well… 

Forget HIPAA. Forget privacy. Not to mention potential abuse of something like this. 

This kind of thing did not happen with HIV/AIDS, note the flu, nor pneumonia, nor anything. All of a sudden, a née deadly disease is out and we are supposed to happily forget our humanity so that people who tell us a different story every day can monitor us like lab rats. 

No thanks. 

The Apple system didn't work even close to this way...

At no point is your location used...

You opted in, your device would send and receive anonymous tokens from other devices.

If the person got COVID, they would have received a code along with their pamphlet on quarantine that they could choose to enter into the covid tracking feature, upon entering the code it would then result in devices that came in contact with that person for long enough to display a message saying they may have been exposed.

No HIPAA violation either because it's voluntary disclosure.

I never even got such a code though, so despite me wanting to participate I wasn't even able to.

genovelle said:

Since the images are not scanned but specific data from hash tag markers to identify know child pornography images from a data base. It is no different from a file that has a known virus being detected and handled. There is a reason this guy is coming out as many others. They have these files themselves and are fearful of being caught  

Sure... everyone that's against this has CSAM... that makes perfect sense...

Or I don't know, maybe people actually value their privacy and Apple just messed up big time?

It's not an objection to the scanning, it's an objection to the scanning being done on your device without you having the option to disable it.

lmasanti said:

Please, FCC/FTC/lawmakers… ASK CUSTOMERS, PLEASE!

Make a survey —aka the one on broadband or better—.
1- Telcos will send all users a lint to a site —they surely know all their users!—.
2- In the site, your cellphone number will be used ONLY to check that you judy vote once and to know your cellphones’ OS/model.
3- Based on the OS option, you'll be asked about things like app store, privacy, etc. —if you use Android you won't be able to answer on iOS' questions and viceversa—.
4- The survey can also be used to ask customers about the tracking ad systems —Facebooks, Instagrams, etc.—

And we will know what customers… who put their money on the device… want.

That'll probably never happen unless corporate lobbying becomes illegal, which will never happen because any attempt to do so will be met with billions of dollars being spent lobbying to prevent anything like that from happening.