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GeorgeBMac said:

anton zuykov said:

GeorgeBMac said:

OK...  Here we go...  From CNBC:

"Because these cable giants are also Internet providers, they also have a theoretical weapon in their back pocket — the ability to throttle Netflix speeds in the new era without net neutrality safeguards, or at least charge customers for using data via Netflix while keeping home-grown cable applications exempt from usage caps."

So much for the "Free Market promotes competition" nonsense...

Free market does promote competition. That is why you are typing your comments from a device that does not cost a fortune to obtain (unlike it was in 1960s with first computers that were 1/100000s of a speed of modern smartphones, while costing millions). And guess what - there is no such law that mandates creation of such devices.

 You really think that throttling will not incentivize some new startup to capitalize on that by disrupting the industry? 

The best analogy to the totally free markets advocated by today's Libertarians is a highway without speed limits.   Yeh, you get where your going faster -- IF you survive.  Most sane people would choose survival.

It is a now common right wing mythology that regulations grew out of an out of control government focused on expanding its own power.   While one could come up with some examples of that, generally regulations grew out of abuses of the totally free market.  For instance:  we regulate the banksters because we learned what happens when we don't:   Fraud and Financial Disasters...   Likewise, we regulate essential services like gas, water and electric because then, everybody wins -- maybe nobody gets fabulously wealthy, but major disasters are avoided and everybody is served.  It's for the public good rather than the corporate good. 

Today, internet service has entered the realm of an essential service.   It is time to regulate it and allow the free flow of data over the wires without profit motivated interference from those organizations who control it.   Unfortunately, those large corporations managed to buy off the politicians and now they can abuse us with their power....

To trust a Comcast or Verizon more than you trust your own elected government is somewhere between pitiful and laughable.   But, that's the creed of the free marketers:  an either/or choice of "Corporation Good -- Government Bad".  The truth is:  both need each other and work best when they work together -- and ultimately we all win.

Regulations not always grow from the abuses. You naively think that regulations are always written for the people, totally missing the point that business uses regulations to create higher barriers of entry to the market, insuring they always have business.. it is done via politicians beign bought out, while explaining to people like you that regulations are needed to ensure fairness and equality and whatever BS of the day is. 

MacPro said:

GeorgeBMac said:

tallest skil said:

GeorgeBMac said:

Kill net neutrality so cable operators can control what you see, how fast you see it and how much you pay to see it.

You know nothing whatsoever about the topic you’re failing to discuss. The big three engine companies, as well as Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter already control everything you see and how quickly you see it. Quit whining about a problem that never existed before your fake “neutrality” and care about the only problem that actually matters. You want to talk about controlling the narrative, bucko, you talk about AP and Reuters, as well as the 6 media companies. The ISPs don’t even factor in.

Step #2 -- Merge cable operators with content providers so you get fewer choices.

Feel free to bring an antitrust suit to the courts. If there’s one thing we don’t need, it’s the 6 media companies who create 100% of Western media to be reduced even further. If you’re dumb enough to think you can vote anyone into government who will actually stop that, feel free to try, I guess.

Meanwhile the so called free marketers are having orgasms -- while their precious free market is being trashed.  Such fools!

No, you’re just literally brainwashed (by the definition of the word) and know nothing about anything you’re saying other than what you were told to repeat without question.

EDIT: At least we know that things will be business as usual in some places. 

That was so full of right wing bull it's really not even worth responding to -- except to call bull to the bull...

You really need to get your head out of your FauxNews....   It stinks up there!

It is truly amazing how the grudge against CNN grew out of a the jokes about faux news.  Fox's so called news program, where the stars expressed personal views all there time rather than reporting, was always simply entertainment, never a serious news organization but boy did the grudge get taken to extremes so that now every single genuine, hardworking and reliable news organization on Earth is deemed fake and only the entertainment version considered genuine.  I suspect new Superman movies will for the next two and a half years have to be released staring Bizarro..

It is apparently much better to listen to some made up BS, passed on as news, than listen to some opinion on the actual facts. CNN discredited itself within the last 2 years so badly, that I would rather watch Fox, as it is lesser of two evils. CNN stopped being a journalist organization a long time ago and is only suited for narrative pushing to those who do not care about reality and facts.

And I was one of the people would brainlessly bash Fox 3-4 years ago, while watching CNN. Then I dared to start checking “facts“ CNN were reporting on.... because of that, I don't watch CNN anymore. I don't watch Fox either, preferring independent people who are actual journalists with the interest of reporting facts, instead of creating “facts”. But the irony is - nowdays Fox creates a lot less bs, than CNN in their “reports”. That is easily confirmed with fact checking. CNN does not even report on what is actually goung on in the world on in the US, unless it “fits the story”.

P.s. I don’t think you should even mention the word Bizzaro, with that “logic” of yours, ‘cause it comes as hypocritical.

GeorgeBMac said:

OK...  Here we go...  From CNBC:

"Because these cable giants are also Internet providers, they also have a theoretical weapon in their back pocket — the ability to throttle Netflix speeds in the new era without net neutrality safeguards, or at least charge customers for using data via Netflix while keeping home-grown cable applications exempt from usage caps."

So much for the "Free Market promotes competition" nonsense...

Free market does promote competition. That is why you are typing your comments from a device that does not cost a fortune to obtain (unlike it was in 1960s with first computers that were 1/100000s of a speed of modern smartphones, while costing millions). And guess what - there is no such law that mandates creation of such devices.

 You really think that throttling will not incentivize some new startup to capitalize on that by disrupting the industry? 

tallest skil said:

Explain what the (unconstitutional) “net neutrality” bill did to fix the problem of ISPs colluding with one another to have literal monopolies in most cities and regions of the country.

Nothing, but it wasn't blessed by the blessing of the law...so, it must be bad! 

gutengel said:

Just in time for the death of net neutrality! Buckle up and let's see what's going to be the first abusive move and how congress wont do anything to protect the people...

Protect from what? You have been buckling up since 2016 with the expectations of all-around collapse.... which never came.