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wasanapplefan said:

Seriously? Apple is failing because of cheaper competition? Bullcrap people talk always is annoying... Apple's pricing relative to rest of the world and India is the issue - a 999$ Note 9 sells for 999$ equivalent in India but a 999$ Iphone Xs sells for 1400$ in India, the new macbook air is almost twice as expensive as the old one it replaces in India, it is infact cheaper to buy a non-touchbar retina macbook pro in India, the one that was never updated this year. India isn't a poor country, neither is the country behind cheap products but we are not stupid enough to invest crap loads of money for no reason... Just a foot note - iPhone Xr, starts at 1050$ in India and they wonder why they can't crack the market...

Shouldn't you do your own research before blabbering? A quick search shows the the higher pricing is because of protective measures of Indian market and Apple not having a manufacturing facility there. (https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/why-iphone-7-is-40-per-cent-more-expensive-in-india-than-us/story/237149.html) Are you saying that Apple should open a charity for India and compromise on the margin? Brilliant way to "crack a market", eh? Sell for a loss, if need be because we HAVE to sell to India and China. I wonder how much $$ does the India market spend on the App Store? If it wasn't for the dumb Wall Street expectation of growth, Apple shouldn't even target India and China.

CheeseFreeze said:

They have been failing on cloud services for a long time. There’s only so much phones you can sell. Google and Microsoft have taken the business market through their suite of excellent collaborative tools and professional hosting services. Amazon has taken their cut on pure hosting services. Apple kept us with bare bones consumer stuff and it’s not working except for consumers who do not look for anything else. 
Meanwhile I can’t even edit a ‘group’ of items in Keynote because I shared the file - a process that often fails a couple of times before it works.

I’m super bearish on Apple. Their OS ecosystem is great but they have not built their company around truly scalable SaaS solutions. Tim Cook is the wrong leader for this day and age. 

I'm trying to understand but can't comprehend what you're trying to say. Yes, Apple is intentionally not strong on social (good or bad depending on the perspective). Collaborative tools have nothing to do with a mobile device necessarily so its a discrete issue. Microsoft failed spectacularly at mobile devices. Now, if someone wants to buy discounted phones because they want the vendor to sell their information (Google) then Apple is not the right choice. The issue here is that there is a choice - if its a country known for being cheap even at the cost of privacy then a higher quality, secure phone will not get traction. There is absolutely no need to bend the model to sell to a low margin country. Porsche will not lose its mind because its not able to market a Kia competitor for the third world market.

I'm already chuckling thinking about the video that YouTuber repair guy is going to do about this. Hopefully, this time it'll end with an aneurysm.