disneylandman

mike1 said:

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Starting price of $599 may be too steep for some. -
That's why the Air2 still exists. I paid $500 for an iPad 2 five years ago. This is a lot more capable, faster, much thinner with a better display and a lot more features. No issue with it starting at $599.

RAM stays at 2 gigabytes, matching iPad Air 2 -
So what? Doesn't seem to hinder performance.

Lightning port is USB 2, only 12.9-inch model has faster USB 3 -
Isn't for me, but acknowledged this might be an issue for some.

Your analogy on price is stupid.  Every new version of the iPad offered more, but retained the same price points for six years.  So now Apple releases an updated iPad and decides to jack up the price by $100 and $150 more, and you don't see the problem in that?  The iPad Air 2 with 128GB was $699.  Now the same iPad with a bump in processor, pencil support, and the same amount of memory is $150 more.  All you get is an updated screen and an A9X, but a jacked up price.  Previous model updates always retained the same price.  Then tack on another $250 if you want a cute little pencil and a keyboard cover that has an unattractive huge bump in it.  And you still don't see the problem in that?  By the way, you cannot buy the iPad Air 2 with 128GB anymore, because Apple is now forcing you to pay the $150 premium.

RAM remaining at 2GB is an insult when the previous iPad Pro touted 4GB of RAM as part of it's 'Pro' moniker.  Compare it with the larger iPad Pro and you will see a performance issue running multiple apps.  You have no idea because you were using an iPad 2.

The new iPads should all support USB 3 since Macs have been using USB 3 for years.

Not many people are excited about a 4" iPhone, except for a few tech nerds on various websites.  Contracts have nothing to do with it.  I got my iPhone 6 Plus on contract in October 2014 when it came out.  AT&T will let me upgrade now with the AT&T Next program, without any penalties.  So people with the original iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are not held back by contracts.  Not many people want to go back to a smaller iPhone.  I prefer the larger screen.  It is easier on the eyes and can see more of everything with apps, the web, and of course photos and video.  I compare my 6 Plus to my iPod Touch 6th Gen, and the 4" screen is just too small these days.  Companies will most likely purchase the SE 16GB because they can deploy it out to employees and have current hardware for running a proprietary app.  It was not that exciting of a release.  So the 5S got an update with new internals and the iPad Pro features trickled down to the 9.7 model, which was expected anyway.  What Apple learned was that no one wanted the cheap 5C with the plastic backing, so they resurrected the 5S because people preferred the aluminum design of the 5 series.  Some people will buy an SE, but most will upgrade to an iPhone 7 with better features.

The $650 eBay price from a tech outlet is not unreasonable at all.  In fact, Apple finally stopped holding iPads hostage and now allows authorized resellers to sell iPads.  B&H Photo, an authorized reseller, is blowing out the silver and gold 32GB iPad Pro 12.9 Wi-Fi models for only $717.99 (and no sales tax), not much more than $650.  But I guess sog35 prefers to pay the highest price possible for his Apple products.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1185482-REG/apple_32gb_ipad_pro_wi_fi.html

Here is how they did it.

paxman said:

ireland said:

If it's $649 for 16 GB iPhone 7 in the US that means it's be €699 for a 16GB iPhone 7 in Ireland. That's poor form from Apple if true. It should be €699 ($649) for 32 GB model and and additional 50 for the 64 GB model and an addition 100 for 128 GB model.

In my experience the vast majority who get the 16 GB model of the latest handset are teenagers and they use phones the most. Therefore, and for other reasons a 16 GB 7 iPhone in 2016 is a poor product and Apple should not offer it for sale. The flagship iPhone this September should start with 32 GB. Apple already has the SE if customers want a more budget iPhone. No excuses for Schiller if it pans out like this and anyone who defends Apple on this will only embarrass themselves.

Personally I think iPhone 7 should start with 64 GB and offer 128 (add 100) and 256 (add 249, ~€1,000).

iPhones are no longer used like phones and should be viewed as computers. A 16 GB flagship iPhone computer in 2016 should not exist.

I think it is fine to offer a 16GB phone but Apple should make its limitations very clear. To sell a 16GB phone to people who simply do not understand the issues (parents who get the cheapest for their kids) only serves the purpose of creating dissatisfied customers. A 16GB phone is fine for some people who hardly take photos, never listen to music and who do not buy a huge amount of apps. In my experience these are not teen-agers but often their parents, or even grand parents.  

Most parents and grandparents that I know LOVE to take pictures and shoot video of their kids and grandkids.  Teenagers take selfies with the low resolution camera.  You would be surprised how many adults love and enjoy using their iPhones.