rogifan_old

sog35 said:

rogifan_old said:

I'm sorry this doesnt work because Apple software only works with Apple hardware. They don't sell stand alone software. 

It does work.  Because what Apple would be providing would be considered supplimental financial information. There is no law or accounting standard that does not allow you to separate hardware costs with software costs. There is also no law or standard against seperating hardware sales from software sales. This is the case even if the software is not available seperately.

Other companies do this all the time. For example repair companies report parts revenue and labor revenue seperate. This is the case even though you can't buy parts or labor seperately.  

But Apple is selling me an iPhone, not iOS. Who cares what percent is considered hardware and what percent is software/services? If Wall Street is stubbornly going to treat Apple as a hardware company tweaking the financials isn't going to change anything. It's not like these guys don't know Apple is responsible for its own software and services.

Today must be the lets pile on Apple day. I've seen 3 stories posted in MarketWatch that are anti-Apple. Reuters and USA Today have doomsday articles about iPhone and Reuters posted a negative Watch story quoting DigiTimes. I can't remember an American company that has received as much negative press from the American media as Apple has. Shameful.

anantksundaram said:

Blaster said:

Maybe they are waking up to the realities of automotive regulatory compliance.  You mean we can't just make up rules as we go along and then change them whenever we feel like it?  This isn't the App Store.

Yeah, exactly, what are they thinking, making it sound like it's as easy as some guy who built a payment processing business could navigate regulations and build an electric car..... realities, indeed.....

It baffles me how many people seem to think Apple executives are the biggest bunch of idiots on the planet. Sure I have my issues with Eddy Cue and I think he has too much on his plate and isn't the right guy to run Apple's cloud efforts but I don't think he's an idiot. Does anybody really think Apple would start a project like this with 1,000 people working on it and not have any clue what they're getting themselves into?

sog35 said:

Without Pencil support I won't be buying this.

Friken Apple better give us pencil support for iPad Air3. If not it would be another demostration of how ass backwards Tim Cook is running the company.

But wouldn't that just cannibalize the iPad Pro? That's something you're so concerned with when it comes to iPhone.

canukstorm said:

steviet02 said:

It's obvious that you don't think anything could possibly be wrong with this project, or Apple for that matter. But it's pretty clear that leaks like this are coming from that review. And most likely, the reason why that chief of the project is leaving. It's possible that Ive's not making things clear and getting upset that results aren't coming.

There are three major execs that left directly / indirectly due to Ive's displeasure. Scott Forstall, Greg Christie, and now Zadesky. I wonder if Ive is pushing his weight around a little too much or biting off more than he can chew.

One, Apple has not confirmed that Zadesky left and the WSJ rumor said his leaving had nothing to do with his performance. Two, there were a number of execs unhappy with Scotf Forstall, not just Jony Ive. Bob Mansfield reportedly wouldn't be in a meeting with him without Tim Cook present. When Tony Fadell was asked about Forstall in a BBC interview he said Forstall "got what he deserved". Ask anybody somewhat in the know and they'll tell you Fadell and Forstall didn't get along at all. Three, listen to John Gruber's 4/21/14 podcast. He said Greg Christie actually got along better with Jony Ive than he did with Scott Forstall and that they're still good friends. He said Christie left because he worked at Apple a long time (mostly directly for Steve Jobs) and was just burned out. Matthew Panzarino at Tech Crunch reported the same thing.