TurboPGT

smarky said:

They desperately need to improve the mics, "Hey Siri" is almost a pointless feature because you need to have the phone up to your mouth anyway or else it doesn't hear anything at all.


Its stupid. You can activate hey siri from most locations but it won't hear you unless you have it held up in your hand or very close to it, making hey siri pointless.

That's not been my experience at all...it works for me, while speaking at a normal volume, up to 10 or so feet away. Typically, if the device in the same room, Hey Siri works just fine.

Thus ushering in the solar age, as described by Apple patents from a few years ago.

I believe they hoped to do it with iPhone 4 or 4S and the technology just didn't pan out. They've had the time to work it out, and they will once again leap 5 years ahead of everyone else with an glass front/back phone that has solar receptors under the glass, as part of solar supplementation system that extends normal battery life by unimaginable lengths.


I firmly believe this to be not just a patent, but a goal..and the primary reason for returning to the Glass device.

rogifan_new said:

nolamacguy said:

no they wont, because that doesnt make any damned sense -- they could up-sell you on wireless buds today. better than the crap in the box, right? except people dont care, because most people just use whats in the box. it will continue to be the same.

This is different though. These are proprietary headphones that only work with iOS devices. It will force people to either buy an expensive adapter or have another set of headphones for all the devices they have that don't have a lightning port. That's a pretty shitty user experience.

I'm sorry, where is it written that Apple does (or should) give a shit about you using the included Made-For-iPhone earbuds with other devices? I can firmly state that this is not priority for them, nor should it be, and that really shouldn't require any explanation.

Nevermind the fact that the current EarPods, which have more features besides just sound throughput, are NOT fully compatible with most other devices.

macapfel said:

MacBAir said:

Hi!

So, what's the consensus, here? I think that the transition to wireless is the way to go, but if they sell lightning headphones they must include a lightning port on Macs as well.

Lightning on PCs is not required, as long as Apple adds a lighting to jack adapter to the iPhone Box – which they most likely would do, so people can use lighting headphones on their PCs as well.

They are not going to include the adapter. It will be an optional purchase. Quite frankly, not everyone needs the adapter...quite frankly, most do not need the adapter. The phone will ship with Lightning EarPods.

Apple isn't going to giveaway an expensive adapter that most recipients simply do not need. You way overestimate how Apple cares about whether or not you can use their Made-Specifically-For-iPhone EarPods, with PCs. Or even Macs.

It's not even debatable. Just run the numbers. How many iPhone 7 will ship? How many of those people even own a Mac? 5%? 10%? They're gonna give away hundreds of millions of adapters to people without Macs? Possibly without PC's at all? If you think so, you simply don't know Apple...or you don't know how to separate your needs from the rest of the world.

rogifan_new said:

TurboPGT said:

Apple Lightning EarPods (included)
Apple Lightning-to-3.5mm Adapter ($19)
Apple Bluetooth AirPods ($79)

I don't doubt you're right but the message people will get is Apple removed the headphone jack to upsell people on wireless earbuds. I think people are getting tired of the constant upsell. 

I'm pretty sure you're misreading "people".

What "people" are going to do is use whatever comes with the iPhone, and not miss a beat.

What some people will do, is buy Apple's or any of a thousand other Bluetooth options, if they haven't already.

What hardly anybody will do, is spend the rest of eternity using adapters for their sad headphone collection.