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matrix077 said:matrix077 said:DavidAlGregory said:Another Glued Shut throwaway iToi from Tim Cook's Apple.
No thank you.
A Xeon CPU and GPU bump with space gray case does not equal $5k.
$5000 will do much better than the entry iMac Pro.
AMD Threadripper 1950X (16 cores / 32 threads) + ASRock X399 Taichi [$970]
Corsair H80i [$80]
32 GB Samsung DDR4 ECC [$400]
1 TB Samsung 960 EVO [$450]
AMD Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition 16 GB HBM2 (Vega 64) [$790]
Corsair RM850x [$110]
ASUS XG-C100C 10 Gbps [$100]
Phanteks Enthoo Pro [$100]
Total for hardware: $3000
That leaves $2000 to budget on a display, OS, keyboard and mouse.
The display preference will vary depending on the industry and use case for this machine. You might need a display with high color accuracy/reproduction or you might need multiple displays, etc.
4:19 mark. He said $5,100 for equivalent PC.
He's also wrong about the pricing. The Xeon W-2145 (entry iMac Pro) & motherboard would cost about $1500 vs the $970 for the Threadripper 1950X + motherboard.
Of course, Threadripper 1950X is better than the Xeon W-2145. The DIY build above also uses the Pro Vega 64, not the entry Pro Vega 56.
I don't see your point. His statement was simply false, I proved that.
If you want a mass produced version of what I listed, you'll have to wait until January. Currently Alienware has exclusive use of Threadripper until the end of 2017, companies like HP and Lenovo can put these in their workstations for scale, and at lower cost than an Intel Xeon W.
4x PCIe 3.0 x16
1x PCIe 2.0 x1
3x Ultra M.2
1x USB-A 3.1 gen2
1x USB-C 3.1 gen2
Additional GPU? Put it inside. Additional storage? Put it inside. External storage? USB 3.1 gen2 is 10 Gbps, faster than SATA3. Need to hot swap storage? $100 extra gets you a front mounted multi drive cage.
You don't need Thunderbolt 3.
We don’t need NVMExpress speed, we don’t need TB3 speed, long live USB 3.1, long live SATA.
OK, then why do you compare that DIY PC to an iMac Pro?
sog35 said:blastdoor said:kent909 said:One more reason to show it was a bad idea for Apple to get out of the display business. I had a LG refrigerator that was a piece of crap. It is highly unlikely that I will ever buy a LG product again.
btw, I was in BestBuy over the weekend and one of the Macs on display was a Mac Mini attached to a Thunderbolt display. It made me sad that this is the face of the Mac being presented to the wider world. Meanwhile, 20 feet away were Windows PCs. Guess what -- the PCs weren't over 800 days old and attached to a discontinued monitor. Sad, sad, sad.
The non-laptop PC market is small and insignificant.
VSzulc said:So does anyone still doubt that Tim Cook is the wrong CEO for Apple?
Bad software decisions and ignoring the Mac has been driving away a core group of customers: Professionals, and now he's tearing away at one of the foundations of the Apple ecosystem.
The Airport routers weren't just about making a profit for Apple (though they surely did, and a handsome one too!).
They were the Routers that a Genius could point to, if anyone was having trouble with their network or backups. They just worked, like the Mac.
They locked a customer gladly and willingly into the ecosystem, and ensured that the next computer they got also was a Mac. Or an Apple TV over a Roku.
Apples one advantage, was always the integration of hardware and software, and the integration of hardware with other hardware.
Unfortunately Tim Cook seems to be too focused on short term profits. I worry about how shortsighted he is.