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I don't need this functionality and won't be downloading the software. 

If Apple behaved like Google, they would never allow the software on the App Store. But they aren't and that being said, it's doubtful that many will download it. And for those that do, even less likely that it will be used for much. 

I don't need to search from a keyboard. The browser window is just fine. Finding restaurants, shopping centers, movie theaters, etc. works just fine in Apple maps or Restaurants from Yelp. Hotels from trip adviser. Those apps also provide useful info. within the app itself. Again, I just don't see any need to search from the keyboard. Launching a browser window is also incredibly easy. 

Big swing and a miss for Google. Better try next time. 

Google is about to be hammered for it's inappropriate use of Oracles JDK. Perhaps removing the offending code and forking OpenJDK is not going so well for them. 

Not surprising that there will be a delay in their implementation of force touch. 

Another juvenile attempt by Google in saying that their Android OS is better because it can do more things. They just don't say that those things are poorly implemented and in many cases unusable. 

I pay for my gas at Exxon stations using Apple Pay. Fast and convenient. There is no Android Pay. 

Google has a long way to go. Unlikely that they will ever catch up.

I don't use their search engine at all and find their responses interesting when I click a YouTube video linked from a search engine different from Google. I won't use the search field even from within YouTube. 

With Amazon's upcoming user uploaded video service, I won't even have to use YouTube and can abandon all of Google's services all together. It will be bliss. 

No one outside of Korea has anyone capable of producing OLED panels in sufficient quantities and at prices for the volumes that Apple operates at. 

Foxconn's purchase of Sharp to gain Apple's display business will fail. 

I eagerly await Apple's conversion from LCD to OLED across all of their product lines. 

At this point, LG and Samsung are so far ahead of everyone else, it's going to take some doing to break into OLED. And the costs will be huge. If Sharp and JDI couldn't do it, it is seriously doubtful that anyone else will. Sony can't even build its own LCD panels, sourcing them from Samsung. And for all of the investment Sony has made into OLED, it is LG that makes the best large screen OLED television panel period. 

Apple uses an LG OLED panel for the watch and it is a great screen. It is unfortunate that the iPhone 7 won't come with an OLED screen. I will patiently wait for the iPhone 8 to upgrade. 

SnRa said:

thewhitefalcon said:

Proof? 

Core M also costs $281-$393 per chip. That's not smartphone material, even if you assume a volume discount. 

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/02/intel-s-core-m-processors-are-being-tested-in-phones/

I wouldn't see core m being a mainstream product for phones, but high end devices like that "rumored" Surface phone could still be possible.

Also, don't be fooled by the list price of that chip. All said and done, no one is paying that much.

Are you saying that someone like Apple would be able to purchase A core M for approximately the same price they are paying for the A9X?!? There is no way that Intel would ever sell a core M CPU for the price of the A9X. The core M is still far too expensive even at a discount. They lost money on the inexpensive Atom chips as ARM chips are still even cheaper. 

I do agree that the core M would never go into a smartphone. Intel and Microsoft are both in trouble. 

Smart guy that Otellini. Krzanich isn't any better either. And if I were Nadella of MSFT, I would be on the phone to Cook attempting to acquire A10X SOCs to build out a Windows phone anyhow. 

Apple is worth more as a company than the current stock valuation. Unless one truly believes that Alphabet/Google can up their game and steal the high end of the mobile market that Apple is clearly playing in. 

The street seems to think that Google's model is better than Apple's and it has shown in the valuation of the companies. However, it is clearly not the case and will become quite apparent moving forward. Google has many fires to attend to and any of them can flare out of control, putting the entire company at risk. Oracle and the European lawsuits are the most problematic, but Facebook is assaulting Google's very lifeblood in its ad revenue model. 

Tim Cook may be a master of the supply chain, but he clearly hasn't executed the finished product well. 

It may all be contractual or limitations due to the high volumes that Apple requires
for their mobile devices. 

However, the lower end mobile devices have excellent cameras and the high end devices like the Galaxy S7 clearly have have better optics. Apple should have Samsung build the optics for the iPhone and not Sony. Cook should also have locked up Samsung to build the iPhone displays. The JDI built displays aren't bad, but the OLED panels on the Samsung are clearly superior. 

I will not use Android, but much of the public have no idea of the problems in Android and willing to purchase the Samsung due to what their eyes can see, and the optics on the Samsung and LG devices are clearly superior. 

Don't even get me started on the MacBook and Apple's stubborn refusal to provide an ARM option. Building an Intel option is fine, but an ARM option would allow iOS software to run natively and bring iOS developers potentially to OS X running on ARM. I would be interested in such a machine. Intel inside is a total no go for me. Development is clearly moving to ARM in droves. x86 is legacy junk and very little development is going on for that platform. And for non Windows x86? There's essentially no development. 

Apple clearly has the reach on iOS to build software services and monetize the services far better than Facebook and Google. And I believe it is coming. However, Cook has little expertise in software and it shows. He either needs to step down, or find someone that can bring new ideas and software sercives to the iOS platform. 

Then there's the data group/server farms. While I am certain that Apple has a plan in place and implementing it, they should already have built out their server farms. Unless they are going to release a new technology that is superior to the current hardware availability and the high costs involved. In short, perhaps there is a plan to build out Apple's cloud but based on an upcoming ARM chip developed internally that outperforms Intel's Xeons at lower power and lower cost. Such a development would allow Apple to develop a solution superior to AWS, Google and Azure. 

So I am content to wait and let the emotionalism drive Apple stock to even lower prices. I will be buying, as Cook seems unusually optimistic and upbeat unlike BK at Intel who appears lifeless and downtrodden or Pichai at Google who seems to be acting out of desperation. Nadella at MSFT seems assured, but only Cook seems optimistic. That's good enough for me. 

I remember the days of Apple when Jobs introduced the iPod. The atmosphere was far more somber. Yet Apple performed admirably. They will again.