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ireland said:

1STnTENDERBITS said:

Imo the price of the stand could have been a non-issue in the press if Apple had simply announced a $5999 monitor with the bonus of an $800 discount for choosing a VESA adapter instead of the stand.  Exact same pricing, exact same components, completely different emphasis.  Putting the spotlight on the stand was not good, but the overall presentation was the best WWDC opening Apple has done in a long time.  They actually got me excited for iPads again.  

Why do you care so much what people think of Apple? The stand is overpriced. 

However, if Apple really wanted to be clever and hide the price they are charging for the stand they should have priced the monitor $500 higher, and given I’d bet the vast majority of folks will want to stand, the stand should have been default configuration, with options for additional VESA for $200 additional, or VESA-only for $399 discount. The press would infer the stand at $599 and that would be that.

I wouldn’t worry about your precious darling, though, many customers of theirs will find the stand attractive precisely because of it expense. Call it perverse inferiority complex.

WTH are you talking about?  I rendered my opinion about WWDC and the MP and monitor.  I couldn't care less about what people think of Apple.  You call Apple my precious darling.  That's funny, incorrect and ironic since a fair number of forum members consider me an Apple hater.  There are a number of ways Apple could have mitigated the fallout from the "Standgate".  Your idea is one of them, but not a good one imo.  I like mine better since it implies no cost for the stand and a discount for the VESA adapter, where yours still assigns an additional cost to the stand.  It invites discussion about cost where there needn't be any.

I think the Pro Workflow Team is going to turn out to be one of the best ideas Apple has had in a long time.  It's sort of a wonder why they didn't have them before.  The new Mac Pro, though obviously not for me, seems to be a damn good machine.  I said the other day Apple hit one out of the park with the Pro and the monitor.  That was just my first impression.  A couple of days worth of reflection and I still think they hit one out of the park.  A home run.  My only criticism, and what kept that home run from being a grand slam, is (1) the puny storage on the base model Pro (2) pricing the monitor stand separately (3) the misstep in announcing the price of the monitor separately.

Imo the price of the stand could have been a non-issue in the press if Apple had simply announced a $5999 monitor with the bonus of an $800 discount for choosing a VESA adapter instead of the stand.  Exact same pricing, exact same components, completely different emphasis.  Putting the spotlight on the stand was not good, but the overall presentation was the best WWDC opening Apple has done in a long time.  They actually got me excited for iPads again.  

Why can't we use MDM to serve customers? 
-Devs

Will somebody think of the kids?!?!  This is for their protection.  We won't let you use MDM because we have to protect the kids.
-Apple

{claims of anti-competitive behavior start to bubble up}

A'ight, you can use MDM.
-Apple

Wait, what?  We just wasted... {sigh}
/goes back to doing exactly what they were doing. 
-Devs

GeorgeBMac said:

fastasleep said:

MplsP said:

Interesting - not sure if this is a good or bad thing. Part of the reason the iPhone and then the iPad did well was because iOS was designed as a touchscreen interface OS, unlike previous adaptations of Windows. That’s both a benefit and a detriment for an iPad. The interface is simple to use, but for fine manipulations it gets cumbersome. A finger works well but it is not a precision pointing device. The pencil gives increase precision, but costs an additional $100+. Now that a mouse or trackpad can be used will it fragment the software so you end up with some that ‘requires’ a mouse to use it effectively? 

Anything on iOS that "requires" a mouse (assuming you don't mean literally, as that would likely go against App Store rules) would just be a poorly-designed app.

You mean like Mail, Pages, Numbers, Word and Excel?   Those "poorly designed" apps?

The truth is:   You can get by using a finger as a pointer, but for fine work, a mouse is far more efficient.

I think @fastasleep means nothing in iOS requires a mouse.  He was countering @MplsP ; argument about fragmentation of software.  It's an invalid argument because there's no requirement for a mouse, iOS hasn't been optimized for mouse support, and it's an Assistive Touch feature.  It never has to be accessed.  It can be accessed and it might make some Apps easier to use and more efficient.  That's a tangential point unrelated to the argument of fragmentation of software.

A lot of us are happy as clams that mouse support is in iOS.  Pretty sure none of us think it fragments the OS by being supported.

davgreg said:

This is not anything I would subscribe to.

First, always back up your data and have a backup on a DETACHABLE drive. That way you can restore what is lost in a worst case scenario.
Second, buy an inexpensive USB 3 or Thunderbolt drive and run the beta on that drive.

Problem solved.

The admonition from AI is for the general public.  For those who are less than versed in the world of the beta, but have an excitement about trying the latest and greatest.  There are many, many, many more of those Apple fans than there are Apple fans like you.  For those people, AI's PSA is the right thing at the right time... when the new new is at it fevered pitch at introduction.  100% guarantee.  Some of those people are going to install the beta anyway, and on their only mac.  When it inevitably goes sideways, they're going to blame Apple, and not their rash decision to install beta software.  It always happens.   AI is right.  Most people should stay far away from betas.