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Trump blinks: Floats suggestion that Apple might get a tariff exemption
Of course they will. That’s a given. But will they succeed? Not likely. They’ve already been riding the gravy train making free money on USA tariffs. Now that’s in question. Now they have to figure out if they want to play fair or hurt themselves.radarthekat said:Here’s something the MAGA crowd doesn’t seem to know is coming. This 90-day delay… they think countries will use this time to kiss the ring. Yes, they will send their emissaries to Washington, but back home they will be working feverishly to cut trade deals and form alliances to reduce their dependence on America and find new sources of needed goods and new markets for theirs.Last time I checked, fair is a noble goal. Something everyone can get behind, whether it’s sports, job promotions, prices at the store, or global trade.It’s been unfair for a very long time. Fair is good. Hopefully we see thst accomplished in short order.
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Trump blinks: Floats suggestion that Apple might get a tariff exemption
Stabitha_Christie said:
And the delusional cult continues on unabated, Dear Leader must not be questioned.9secondkox2 said:It’s not a “blink.” It has been mentioned a lot here on ai before the tariffs came on. Apple would get an exemption. I’ve personally posted this a few times.Smart people do smart things. It’s why cook preemptively met with the president prior to the election and why the admin is letting some of the fine tuning show now. It’s always shock and awe to rile up the immoveable players. Then settles into the details. It’s why you hear the phrase/torle “art of the deal” being so talked about lately.As I’ve BEEN saying, Apple willl be fine.
Meanwhile in reality Trump has shown how much of a lame duck president he is and U.S. is much weaker on the world stage than it was a week ago.
And because you pointed out in an other thread that you woefully uninformed on trade, let me help you out. What you and Trumpty Dumpty seem to be missing is Trump can't protect Apple or any other company from China. If China decides to start targeting U.S. companies like Apple or Tesla and just boots them from the country then they are absolutely screwed. The U.S. doesn't have the advanced manufacturing capabilities of China and that is something that would take at least a decade to build out. China does almost all of the world's refining of rare earth minerals. Replacing that capability will take a decade to do. China holds way more cards in this trade war than just tariffs. Turmpty Dumpty has brought a squirt gun to a gun fight.
Maybe, just maybe, ponder the potential consequences of Trumps actions rather than blindly cheerleading for him
It’s common sense. Something a trump-hatred cult will never see.Stabitha_Christie said:
And the delusional cult continues on unabated, Dear Leader must not be questioned.9secondkox2 said:It’s not a “blink.” It has been mentioned a lot here on ai before the tariffs came on. Apple would get an exemption. I’ve personally posted this a few times.Smart people do smart things. It’s why cook preemptively met with the president prior to the election and why the admin is letting some of the fine tuning show now. It’s always shock and awe to rile up the immoveable players. Then settles into the details. It’s why you hear the phrase/torle “art of the deal” being so talked about lately.As I’ve BEEN saying, Apple willl be fine.
Meanwhile in reality Trump has shown how much of a lame duck president he is and U.S. is much weaker on the world stage than it was a week ago.
And because you pointed out in an other thread that you woefully uninformed on trade, let me help you out. What you and Trumpty Dumpty seem to be missing is Trump can't protect Apple or any other company from China. If China decides to start targeting U.S. companies like Apple or Tesla and just boots them from the country then they are absolutely screwed. The U.S. doesn't have the advanced manufacturing capabilities of China and that is something that would take at least a decade to build out. China does almost all of the world's refining of rare earth minerals. Replacing that capability will take a decade to do. China holds way more cards in this trade war than just tariffs. Turmpty Dumpty has brought a squirt gun to a gun fight.
Maybe, just maybe, ponder the potential consequences of Trumps actions rather than blindly cheerleading for himAnd I’ll take Donald trump and Bessent any day over some dude on the internet named “stabitha.”
But seriously. There are so many ways to look at this. It definitely exposes predispositions. If you already hate Tru p, you’ll work to find the pessimistic angle. If you already like him, you’ll work to find the positive angle. And if you’re just a simple common sense guy, you’ll work to can appreciate what he’s trying to do while retaining the ability to see where it may go wrong - but also retain tje ability to see where it may go right. So far, for common sense folks, tje goal is admirable, results are mixed with the short time in action, and the pivot seems to preserve both the American tech company as well as the inherits of the action to begin with. The downside of all of it is of course the “short term pain” of stock volatility and posdible higher prices. But that was always a known quantity. Not some surprise. But the long term gain of fair trade is what the goal is. And it’s certainly at the very least worth the attempt. If it wasn’t trump, it would be someone else. The status quo is not sustainable without ceding our economy and leading status in the world. As one of the few truly free places in the world, this matters. We are all her for all things apple. They’re a great company. Another reason their great is that they stand for human rights, privacy, security, etc. on top of making the best stuff on earth. But take away the foundation of freedom upon which they operate and things go south. We see a microcosm in the EU and China. Hopefully, with the bold moves being made on the big stage, that’s as far as it goes.
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Trade war escalates: Trump hikes China tariffs to 125%, pauses others for 90 days
bullies hate being bullied and when things don't go their way they blame others.canukstorm said:camber said:From the excellent article: "Trump cited a "lack of respect" from China" Let me get this straight. The schoolyard bully got called out, and he says that is disrespectful? He should hope he never finds out what disrespectful really is!
very true. China has been bullying the usa on trade and us companies by stealing their ip and even controlling their data. We called them out, They panicked and tried to double down with the tariffs and are now in a tough spot. There is a lot of nuance being revealed. We’ll see how it goes but at least American companies are being looked after, whether with pauses or exemptions.If my family rents a house from a landlord and that landlord charges them an extra amount bevause we aren’t from that neighborhood, and that same landlord goes to my car dealership to lease a new vehicle, I’m going to Jack up his price too. What’s fair is fair. Now if he wants to stop being a bully and stop the ridiculous additional fees, then I’ll do the same. Equity and parity is all I wanted to begin with. -
Trump blinks: Floats suggestion that Apple might get a tariff exemption
It’s not a “blink.” It has been mentioned a lot here on ai before the tariffs came on. Apple would get an exemption. I’ve personally posted this a few times.Smart people do smart things. It’s why cook preemptively met with the president prior to the election and why the admin is letting some of the fine tuning show now. It’s always shock and awe to rile up the immoveable players. Then settles into the details. It’s why you hear the phrase/torle “art of the deal” being so talked about lately.As I’ve BEEN saying, Apple willl be fine.
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Trade war escalates: Trump hikes China tariffs to 125%, pauses others for 90 days
And that would be a grossly inaccurate assumption. Let’s be grown ups and keep the insults and personal attacks out of the forum. Actually I think that’s part of the rules.Stabitha_Christie said:
I think anyone that has read your commentary hear figured out that you aren't a particularly well informed person. Good to see you admit it though.9secondkox2 said:
Idk. I never knew about the tariffs applied to us before now.Mike Wuerthele said:
It's only a deal if you consider somebody stabbing you six inches in the chest, and then pulling the blade back three inches a deal where you just had paper cuts before.9secondkox2 said:The art of the deal in action.
