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Apple stock bloodbath continues after China applies retaliatory tariffs
Those are covered under the “foreign goods” umbrella.Mike Wuerthele said:
Foreign goods? What about food from other countries? What about raw materials? Lumber, steel, concrete.9secondkox2 said:The rest button has been pressed. The system is powered down, but will power up with a fresh set of memory banks.Of course things are rough the day after. But let’s give it time to do what it’s going to do. There’s no arguing the USA has been unfairly treated in the world trading stage. Giving them some of their own medicine is necessary to level tje playing field. It’s not okay for us to pay sn ram dnd a leg to sell iverseas while they have it easy here. Or to be barred from selling there while they take over here.We can hold off our addiction to foreign goods for a short while so they can feel the squeeze and give ourselves strong legs to stsnd in moving forward. Short term pain got long term gain.With ford offering killer deals for the next 3 months the snd apple poised to sail through, I think we will be ok. Kinda me me wonder if anticipation of this isn’t why we have an m3 ultra instead of an m4 ultra.I can’t imagine there not being some communication about how to navigate this behind the scenes. The president and Apple’s CEO are brilliant people.
Ford's "killer deals" are literally sticker price. Apple isn't poised to "sail through." It hasn't even started making the iPhone 17, and it relies on discretionary income.This is not going to go the way you say it's going to go. There is no gain here.Fords deals aren’t msrp. They are a little below invoice. Employee pricing. Just went to check out the Bronco. It’s a pretty major deal. I’m shocked. There have been ways to get to this previously, but to offer it en masse across the board, even just for three months is major.We will see how it goes. I certainly am not going to pronounce judgement against it in two days.But the goal has been stated to make it fair trade for the USA on the international field. It’s a fact that we have been dispropoetuobstely targeted with high tariffs by other countries while they profit handsomely from the US. History has show that sitting back and just taking it isn’t the way to go - especially post-pandemic. So this is as good as shot as we’ve got. We can’t just sit back and keep asking them to “be nice please.” Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. Of course there will be some pain. I’m thinking it’s short term.” But not necessarily quick. However it’s worth the attempt at the very least. If it all goes horribly awry, there is the option of doing an about-face.Tje only thing I would have done differently is that I wish the president would have given a formal address to the nation in order to calm the knee-jerk reactions. Of course msny would still react anyway. He has his detractors as well as supports. But it would have been a good thing.Either way, I think his cabinet has laid it all out very nicely on various news outlets and set the record straight.Time is going to tell on this one. If it ends up going bad, no amount of cheerleading will change that. And if it ends up a success, no amount of hate will change that either.In the meantime, we will see how American companies get creative and how American purchasing loyalties adjust.
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Apple stock bloodbath continues after China applies retaliatory tariffs
Yep. Apple has skyrocketed in pricing the last few years. They have a couple base models with price tags that look good on paper. But as soon as you spec it to what you actually want/need, it gets astronomical quickly.flitetym said:Good. Apple has long been over-priced, and under-performing. Apple needs to bring its rotten self back to terra firma. You people had better realize and accept that Apple is not the company it used to be.It’s time for that to come back to reality. The 2020 iMac 5k was s great deal. Loaded one up for my previous organization and the price was great for what it was.A few years later, the same equivalent computer would cost a ridiculous amount.
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Apple stock bloodbath continues after China applies retaliatory tariffs
California is part of the country. If there is a federal tariff, California is the one in violation if they try to ignore it.foregoneconclusion said:The governor of California is going to call Trump’s bluff by ignoring the federal tariff and negotiate directly with other countries on tariffs. Seems like a decent strategy considering that the Trump tariffs are entirely dependent on the claim that the national debt has created a national emergency that gives the president the power to levy tariffs. In other words, the White House is likely violating the law and California is going to respond in kind.Newsom will say anything to try to sound relevant. He’s already done enough to wreck California. Don’t want to imagine his influence going any further.
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Apple stock bloodbath continues after China applies retaliatory tariffs
The rest button has been pressed. The system is powered down, but will power up with a fresh set of memory banks.Of course things are rough the day after. But let’s give it time to do what it’s going to do. There’s no arguing the USA has been unfairly treated in the world trading stage. Giving them some of their own medicine is necessary to level tje playing field. It’s not okay for us to pay sn ram dnd a leg to sell iverseas while they have it easy here. Or to be barred from selling there while they take over here.We can hold off our addiction to foreign goods for a short while so they can feel the squeeze and give ourselves strong legs to stsnd in moving forward. Short term pain got long term gain.With ford offering killer deals for the next 3 months the snd apple poised to sail through, I think we will be ok. Kinda me me wonder if anticipation of this isn’t why we have an m3 ultra instead of an m4 ultra.I can’t imagine there not being some communication about how to navigate this behind the scenes. The president and Apple’s CEO are brilliant people.
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How and where Trump's new tariffs affect Apple
Well, I guess people must have been dying worse in these other countries who have already been tariffing the USA horrendously. I guess China is killing its people by adding even more tariffs on the USA… the whole world is going to die all because orange man bad. It’s worse than nukes!AppleZulu said:
Keep in mind that farming requires seasonal lead time to make decisions about crops and livestock. This administration has already impulsively cancelled agricultural purchases for USAID and now for domestic food banks. They've also deported or threatened migrant workers who would normally do the planting and picking. Now, as China and others countries impose retaliatory tariffs on US agricultural products, farmers have already made seed purchases, planted some and are either holding or obligated to buy other crop seed. Similarly, breeding of livestock is already well under way. Do they go ahead and grow the stuff planned for export, or do they cull herds, plow under crops and let seed rot as they try to cut their losses?foregoneconclusion said:
The thing that is so stupid about the tariffs is that Trump already tried this strategy in his 1st term and it was a complete failure. American farmers had to get $28 billion in taxpayer funded bailouts to prevent the farming industry in the U.S. from collapsing. So instead of creating a better market for farmers, the tariffs just created unnecessary debt for Americans that pay taxes.AppleZulu said:9secondkox2 said:AppleZulu said:Nobody wins a tariff war, and certainly not one of this breadth and scope. We will all be paying for this for years to come.
For domestic consumers, this may mean some low prices on a few things they don't want and higher prices on things they do, as farmers seek to offset their huge losses on exports, or simply go out of business and don't grow anything for anyone. Similar chaos will impact manufacturing industries like at Apple, but it'll be immediate and hugely damaging in the Agricultural sector. Again, there's no pleasure in seeing this pain, but the people hurt are the same ones in red-state "flyover country" who were sold a bill of goods by a con that would make Bernie Madoff blush. Watch this summer for the news stories about farmers going bankrupt. Willie Nelson will show up to help, but there's only so much he can do. Also watch this summer for the stories about famine all over the globe as the disruptions affect the poorest people everywhere. People are going to die because of one man's egotistical bluster.um, no. Enough with the hysterics please.
