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Trump confirms he reduced tariffs to help Tim Cook
These are not intelligent people in charge. These are not good people in charge. Note that during this same meeting with the El Salvadoran president, not only did Trump offer doublespeak about never changing his mind while also changing his mind to benefit Apple, he said, in a hot-mic moment, “Homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places.” He wants more offshore torture prisons built so he can send US citizens out of the country, where he would be ‘powerless’ to bring them back. Let’s hope he changes his mind about that. But at least you’re a happy potential customer for your iPhone upgrade.9secondkox2 said:As I said a long time ago, intelligent people are in charge snd apple will be ok. The president will have a way to navigate Apple through some difficult decidd add jobs. And it has come to pass.Cook was wise to open the door of discussion dnd thr president has been wise in response.I know it’s popular in this particular online space to detract from the president no matter what he does, but the fact is tarriffs are necessary -yet it’s sldd add o necessary to protect Americans and American companies. The idea is to put the pressure on other countries, particularly China - and not on American companies.It’s not changing mindset. It’s continuing forward motion, msnuevering as needed. That’s only good stuff snd Apple is the better for it. As this year marks time for my iPhone upgrade and early next is my next Mac purchase, I am a pretty happy potential customer right about now.
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iPhone & Mac tariff reprieve only temporary
At the root of this problem is Mr. Trump’s view of all relationships as transactional. Plus it’s not just that. He believes if you’re not screwing the other guy over, you’re being screwed. That’s why he notoriously routinely stiffed contractors in the building business.It’s why he’s stetting tariffs worldwide, even against penguins. His basic assumption is that, lacking obvious evidence that we’re already screwing over each other country, they must be screwing us, so we’d better stick it to them by default.In China’s case, there’s certainly evidence that they’re doing things we should actually try to stop. The problem is, by preemptively screwing over everyone else, especially our closest allies and trading partners, the administration has significantly weakened our position and undercut our leverage against China.Don’t forget that at the end of the Obama administration, the US was in the final stages of a trade alliance with the entire pacific rim, aligning everyone else with us, apart from China. One of Trump’s first acts was to throw all that out, because Obama couldn’t possibly have gotten a good deal.Now he’s done it again, voluntarily pushing our own allies away and toward China. The incompetence and ego-driven stupidity here will cost us for generations to come.
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iPhone & Mac tariff reprieve only temporary
Now China is halting exports of certain rare earth metals and magnets. They have a monopoly on them, and the US needs them. I'm sure @9secondkox2 ; will tell us how this was all part of Trump's brilliant master plan as well. He has our best interests at heart, and has thought all this stuff through, you know. Don't you fret. Everything's fine.
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Trump gives Apple a giant break with wide-ranging tariff exemptions
Talk about the real TDS.9secondkox2 said:
Wrong. I said all of the above - including that Apple would sail through due to exemptions. Mike W. even commented directly telling me "it's not going to go the way I think it will go" in response to one of my posts on the matter. I also added late that The USA has indeed been getting ripped in world trade forever now and that it's about time someone stands up to global bullies. Manufacturing does belong back in the USA - but also elsewhere. America doesn't need to abdicate all manufacturing. Much healthier to be both a product AND services economy. The fact is Trump is very easy to read and to predict when you realize that he has America's best interests at heart ad takes action accordingly. It is no surprise that he initiated reciprocal tariffs or that he paused them when the word wanted to make a deal. It's also not shocking at all that he kept up the tariffs on China, but did so in a way that doesn't hurt American companies (though it also weakens the tariff impact on China) - who he is doing this on behalf of. It's the art of the deal in action - set an extreme goal, get them scrambling, then when the entrenched positions are broken, maneuver the chess pieces, keep them guessing, and settle on the realistic area you wanted all along.I know it's popular on this site to hate on the man, but it doesn't make much sense.Xed said:
No, you said that the world has been ripping the US off and that Apple needs to bring manufacturing back to the US. Trump giving in yet again with this exemption doesn't hurt China and doesn't bring "jobs" back to the US. But nice try.9secondkox2 said:As I’ve been saying since before this whole thing happened.
As I have been saying all along, Apple is going to be OK. They have someone standing up for them on the global stage. I have a sneaking suspicion that more is to come with the EU as well.Trump has no one’s interests at heart but his own. This was not some masterful “art of the deal.” This was and still is an economic clusterf*ck foisted on the world by an egomaniacal narcissist, surrounded by a bunch of servile sycophants who won’t tell him no, even if it means destroying the entire world economy.These are not even remotely “reciprocal tariffs.” They are simplistic ChatGPT math, based on individual trade deficits, not other countries’ tariffs imposed on US imports into their countries, all dumped on a chart like a list minute homework project where the assignment was “give me a chart of big tariffs on every country in the world, except Russia.” You can paint bullseyes around every one of Trump’s randomly thrown darts, but you’re not convincing anyone that any of it has been a carefully planned strategy.
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Trump gives Apple a giant break with wide-ranging tariff exemptions
So pray tell why he didn’t just exempt smartphones, computers, etc., in the first place? I can only think of two reasons, myself. Impulsive stupidity, and/or stock manipulation for the purpose of insider trading. Have you got a better explanation?9secondkox2 said:As I’ve been saying since before this whole thing happened.
