80s_Apple_Guy

App Store was offline till 0211 for me. Got mine in with the Reservation due to unable to contact carrier system. Delivery Nov 17-24. 

macplusplus said:

MplsP said:

macplusplus said:

MplsP said:

andrewj5790 said:

Except Apple didn’t release a 7s. They released an 8 and the X, so we don’t know how a 7S would have sold. 🙄

Sure they did - it's just called the iPhone 8. 

As far as the 'Duh' comment goes - I totally agree. There is very little difference between the 6s, the 7 and the 8 (headphone jack, waterproofing, some incremental changes in the camera and now wireless charging) to excite most people about upgrading. When you dangle the iPhone X on top of that, who can blame people for waiting?

The A11 Bionic is the difference. It is not an incremental change, it is a substantial jump forward and the only jump since four years after A7 which was a jump to 64-bit. With a 7 you can go further at most one year, but 8 series will support you at least four years.

True, I forgot about that, but very few people were actually limited by the processor before. The A9 in my 6s is doing great. The home screen may open 200ms faster on the 8, but I'm not going to pay $700 for that. I suspect many people are in the same boat. In years past 2 model years made a huge difference in features and performance. Not so much any more.

You don’t pay $700 for 200 ms gain, you pay that for 6 cores, Apple GPU, Neural Engine, OIS and better image signal processor, wireless charging, TrueTone display, color accuracy... Not all of these can be summarized as 200 ms.

But how many users actually see a practical real world daily benefit from that new A11 chip? According up Apple battery life is about the same as the 7. Most people aren't going you see any real benefit. Most apps and processes are plenty fast on the A9 and A10

Supply will play a role too. IF there is a big backlog, and while I usually ignore these stupid rumors there is more evidence this time it may be at least somewhat true, how many people will wait 4-6 months for their new iPhone X and get it 4-6 months before the next iPhone is announced? Then if not do they buy the iPhone 8 family or wait till next cycle hoping for better supply? No one will leave the iPhone for Android as you'd be better off with your 5 than an Android. 

Does this mean going back to the days of most programs being incompatible with Mac like with the Power PC? No bootcamp anymore? 

zimmie said:

80s_Apple_Guy said:

"Users will also be required to use the passcode if it hasn't been used to unlock the iPhone X in the last 156 hours and if Face ID has not been used successfully in the last four hours."

The above is from the article. If I read that right, and please tell me if you think I'm wrong, but isn't that saying if you don't use your phone for four hours you need the passcode? That's ridiculous. Right now I think it's 48 hours then you have to use the passcode if you haven't used the Touch ID. 

Nope. It is an "and", not an "or". After 156 hours, it starts the four-hour clock. The idea is to avoid interrupting you in the middle of the workday. If you don't wake and look at your phone for over four hours, you're probably asleep or doing something entirely without your phone.

Gotcha. Thanks that makes a lot more sense