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Q sog35

Wow was the original iPhone that obesed ? Darnm, that must explain Jonny's fondness for product bulimia

Hey sog's back, here we go, its been quiet and boring for far too long. It seems to be escaping most, the actual difficulty of building a car. As much as I loath Mask, he was right that Apple was late to the automotive industry, it's not that Apple can't design and build an electric car it's that if that's what you wanted to do, the car is the last thing to be build. Apple has no infrastructure they fully control as they would absolutely need to, like tesla. Now Apple has to build millions of very complex machines to sell in a markert they have zero relatable or cross applicable experience with, and no sence of what success Will be, spend irrecoverable billions on infrastructure that would need to be maintained regardless of the eventual success or failure of the venture. As nice as an Apple car might be I think the environment just isn't ripe yet, makes it kinda easy too because Tim never really said he was building a car,that was all the rumor mill, now imagine if Apple anouced things at R&D before they were ready for market release they'd be stuck.

mpantone said:

techprod1gy said:

This type of thing happens when you go outside your area of expertise...

Yeah, look at what happened to Apple when they started dabbling with MP3 players and mobile phones.

Yeah what a complete disaster that was on the other hand perhaps calling the thing KARMA was just asking for it, irony ?

blastdoor said:

bigmushroom said:

There is Rayz2016 said:

Well this will be interesting. 
Cook was prepared to defy the FBI in the US to protect privacy. Let's see how far he'll go in China. 

No this will be boring and depressive: there is no way around this in China. The FBI was easy to defy because the US isn't China: Apple's stance triggered a public discussion. We probably won't find out much about it either because Apple will have no interest in detailing exactly how they will have to cave in to the Chinese government's demand.

The only way around it would be to abandon China - like Google has done by the way back in 2010. Among the multi-nationals they are the only ones who won't be affected much by these rules because they already paid the cost of losing the Chinese market in 2010.

Exactly right on all counts. Either Apple complies or Apple is gone. 

Apple has always been clear that they follow the laws of the countries in which they operate. In some sense, well duh. But it's important to keep in mind. In countries like the US there are ways to legally challenge the government. But in places like China it's either impossible or much, much harder. 

Won't the question then be "well you already do it in communist China why not in you're home country to catch terrorist ?", dicy, part of me kinda wishes Apple just bit the bulet and never got into China, now it's stuck, yeah yeah I know Apple wouldn't be as big as it and business is business, just not sure how this can't be completely against everything that makes Apple, Apple, is being the wealthiest company in the wold woth this? Glad I'm not deciding that.Google did pretty well I think though.