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sog35 said:

rogifan_new said:

sog35 said:

mwhite said:

sog35 said:

Why. Is. apple. So. slow.

get with it already Apple.

Stop trying to low ball content providers. Just close the deals already. Then once you have 20 million subscribers then you can negotiate lower prices.

I'm getting sick of Tim Cook's slow action.

Apple is keep getting left behind because of Cook's inability to act:

1. Took forever to bring out large phones - thus Samsung got a massive foothold in the market
2. Took forever to make an AppleTV with Apps - thus Roku, Amazon, Google got a foothold in streamers
3. Taking forever to make a home hub device - thus Amazon Echo has made a big push
4. Taking forever to close a LiveTV package and a streaming package - falling behind again
5. Took forever to bring out streaming music - thus Pandora/Spotify got a huge early lead
6. Took forever to bring out a powerful iPad - thus Surface made some gains in mind share
7. Taking forever to bring out an iOS desktop
8. Taking forever to make phones with a smaller bezel
9. Taking forever to build their cloud
10. Taking forever to build out Apple Pay
11. Taking forever to build out HomeKit

Tim Cook's Apple is all about being slow and being left behind.

Apple could have easily dominated multiple markets but they are so damn slow

I think you need to drop Apple and go with Android because everyone here is tired of your bitching!!!

it isn't bitching. Its truth.

Do you not agree Apple was way to slow in bringing out an AppleTV with Apps? If they did this 4 years ago they would be dominating the streaming device market. Instead Cook was slow and Roku/Amazon/Google has taken huge chunks of the market.

Same thing with a home hub device like Echo. 

I'm getting tired of Apple dragging their feet on obvious opportunities

What do you think about this Goldman Sachs proposal for Apple to create an Apple Prime subscription service where a consumer would pay, say, $50/mo for an iPhone, TV, Music and iTunes 'subscription'? I think this is an idea the executive team should be looking at. 

http://ped30.com/2016/10/17/apple-prime-goldman-sachs/

I like it.

Then every 2 years allow for an upgrade.

Lets go further:

iPhone, iPad, iOS desktop or Mac, AppleTV, Watch. The more you subscribe to the bigger the discount. Same with services: iCloud, Music, Movies, LiveTV, ect.

Again, why is Apple so slow in taking advantage of obvious opportunties? 

Two future execs right here, pay attention Apple

phone-ui-guy said:

sog35 said:

melgross said:

I'm not so sure this event is going to introduce anything groundbreaking. An OLED keystrip is a nice advance, but groundbreaking? Not really. What else? This isn't going to be like the Mac introduction, or the iPhone, or iPad. It's will be several, I hope, upgraded machines, and maybe the discontinuation of another.

nice, but not groundbreaking. Groundbreaking would be an ARM MacBook. I don't see that happening this year.

what else ground breaking could they REALISTICALLY introduce now?

iOS desktop with Touch Pad + keyboard input
A10X
256 GB flash
$299

A competent Apple desktop computer for that price would be REVOLUTIONARY

Why iOS? They could stick macOS on there and not cripple the device as much.

Yeah sog's been on this iOS desk top high for days now, and it probably ain't happening but hey what does anyone els know, it shall be so coz sog said so

just teasing sog don't loose you're shit

though I do think an iOS desk top is really nonsensical as every thing it woud deliver could be achieved by connecting peripherals to an iPad pro and Apple would retain descent profits margins from selling iPP instead, please note I'm not disputing whether something like that could be made to work for some use cases,

but if a computer is gonna sit on the desk and pretend its a desktop then it better be able to do most things a desktop is EXPECTED to be able to do like run REAL Pro apps and power external displays and that ain't no iOS desktop, but then that's just my opinion

Are they choosing to play platform politics or make dumb business policies ?

sog35 said:

I think this says it all.

Its nuts that Apple isn't addressing the $299-$399 desktop market. This was impossible before because Intel chips are so expensive. Now that the A-series chips are fast enough its time to make a move. Even a $299 iHome with 128GB flash and A10 would make a very nice profit for Apple.

I thought like you did till I was enlightened,
curtesy of lowededwookie
The reason iOS got away with what they did was simply because it was a completely new way of doing things. Originally there was no third party app support with ALL (emphasis not yelling :-) ) apps being web apps originally. Apple ceded to developers allowing them to create their own apps and in the start there were some amazing apps. There still are amazing apps but a lot of apps these days seem to be simplified apps that don't really showcase what the OS is capable of.
However, there was no legacy. All apps were developed from scratch and it wasn't really until around iOS 5 that we started to see some truly amazing games coming for the platform. iOS works because the apps are not ports. They don't come from other platforms.
The apps on iOS generally serve a particular function for a mobile need. macOS however is different. The real problem with macOS is that it's a legacy way of coding. It's slowly changing with the Mac App Store's limitations being inline with iOS' ideology but it's still a pretty open platform. Can macOS apps run on ARM (ARM is actually the proper way of spelling it because it is an acronym for Advanced RISC Machines)? Technically yes because the way macOS is designed to run it can be easily ported to other processor architectures. I suspect in the future there will be a true amalgamation of the OSs into one but it's going to require a complete developer rethink of how they will write applications and developers are not in that headspace and are mostly reluctant to change their ways.
When it comes to games however this will NEVER happen. If you look at the types of games that are popular on iOS they are not the same types of games that are popular on desktops/laptops. Will Eve Online ever be ported to ARM? I seriously doubt it because there is currently no way to get a DirectX game to work on iOS devices. It's not that the processor isn't as powerful, it's simply that the missing Intel code prevents it from happening.
You NEED the Intel code for virtualisation to work otherwise you have to use emulation that ALWAYS has a performance hit. There are different types of emulation too. In the PPC processor days of the Mac the PPC processor had some Intel code in it. This meant that there was a lot of emulation that didn't need to be emulated because they could just write the bits for the Intel code natively and emulate the rest.
There was massive performance hits but I remember running a machine in Virtual PC that served as a PXE Boot server for building PCs running on an iBook with PPC processor and Virtual PC and it was building machines only 7 minutes slower than a physical Compaq PC. It worked and it worked well but it WAS very slow by comparison to running Parallels or VMWare today.
This type of emulation could be likened to New Zealand Sign Language (sorry I'm from New Zealand so it's the way I think). It's a completely different language but we can understand some of it because it uses natural expressions that everyone seems to use. However, coding for a processor such as ARM that has no Intel code will mean you have to do COMPLETE emulation.
There is no ability to offload code to specific hardware designed to make things faster. As such you have to translate every single piece of code to the ARM language. It's like being a Chinese translator. The words are different, the sentence structure is different, the inflections are different, the use case of words can be different depending on context and you've got to listen to what's being said, understand the context of what is being said, then provide the English translation accordingly then do the English to Chinese translation for the reply. And that is why people will NOT port games and apps from Windows to ARM because the emulation will make the app or game useless and porting the app to ARM, i.e. translating from Intel to ARM so the app is native code, is such a difficult process due to the completely different way the processors do things, that the time and effort needed to do this will be not worth the effort.
This HAS happened in the past so I know this will be the case again. However, if a developer writes an app using nothing but the Apple developed APIs it is technically feasible to write one application for different platforms but you HAVE to write interface code to match the platforms though. No point in writing an app for mouse clicks for an OS that is designed for touchscreens. This then introduces UI rethinks and brings you back to square one again. Microsoft failed with Windows 8 not because it was a bad idea but because they forced a simplified interface on EVERY device be it phone or desktop.
People rejected this idea because it didn't work as well as it could have although I've used some Metro apps that work on desktops and phones and they work really well so it is possible but it requires a lot more thought. I'm not saying that your thinking is wrong. I like the idea. What I'm saying is developers won't go for it because the cost to develop would eat into their profits and that's something they don't want which ultimately screws us as consumers of their software.

flaneur said:

eightzero said:

But but but...i don't *want* to have human contact...

Ha. They're looking for people like you at Oculus.

All those people wearing those things on their faces look like dorks and Look at that smile on that doofus, man imagine a world with no Apple this would be the epitommy of cool, we wouldn't know any better, before the iPhone Black Berry was the shirt, and nothing could have been any better, how scary is that thought, you look at this and are privledged to say "can't wait for the APPLE VESION"