holyone

What do they mean a running start of 75 million ? based on what ? Is it like when this service drops or more accurately (evolves from Apple music) it'll instantaneously take Apple from 30 to 75 ? Why ? Also interesting that no mention of Disney in this, I think thats the death-star coming right there. Strangely too Drake has some carte blanche on content at Apple, really ? Ok

StrangeDays said:

holyone said:

lkrupp said:

This is why I stick with Apple. They are not afraid to push the envelope, cross the line, move to where the puck will be. Apple could have played it safe and put TouchID on the back like Samsung. Instead they went nipples to the wind, balls to the wall, dragging users kicking and screaming with them. Will Face ID succeed wildly or fail miserably? Since it's Apple I believe it will be the former. And why do the lurkers come crawling out with every DED article? Because he throws it in their faces, that's why, and all they can do is claim he's an Apple brown nose. Re-read the section titled "Touch ID panic: This all happened before" as this is the crux of the article. Techies are always guffawing about luddites and those unwilling to adapt to technology when it's they themselves that are the cowards when change arrives. OMG, Apple did something different! Well they had better keep all my favorite ports and features because I refuse to consider change!

Change for change sake isn't a good thing, there will always come a point wher further change serves only to degrade a user experience that has otherwise achieved perfection,

Face ID isn't change for change's sake, it's for the sake of getting a smaller device with the same sized or bigger screen.

funy how the was no menstion of this during the key note. Apple always makes it a point to present not just a product or technology they demonstrate their take on it and why they chose to do it and the carefully narrated reasoning and thinking behind any major change they make that people and especially the press will question ? That is how they've always done things. The hole same size but bigger screen is just conjecture and has little to do with face ID which could just as easily be built into the 8's in their curent sizes, when was it that people went "smartphone makers we want biger screens on smaller phones, even if part of the screen will be cut for cameras and such" are the gains really that worth it ?if the plus is to big for you buy the smaller non plus model, Jony secrificed simmetry for this thing. And Considering all the trouble Apple went throught to get the X they didn't even officially say that this phone is in celebration of the original or that it was especially an anniversary model, merely a start of the new direction iPhone is going, BTW I like the X it looks better than I thought it would but the 8 is drop dead, it's unfortunate that the voice of Apple fans (who appreciate the Apple experience more than anything) is being drowned out by the new AAPL fans who are quick to talk money and technology with out any clear direction.

StrangeDays said:

holyone said:

Hey Dan can I ask, level of security not with standing, do you really advocate a single form of authetification i.e face ID alone because that's some how the future even if face ID plus touch ID were possible ? Or just editorial bitch slapping Sammy and cohorts, and youre fellow pundits, coz you know that's fun to write ( and read ) and what did you make of Crage's demo ?

"Hey Holyone can I ask, did you really advocate a single of biometric authentication i.e. Touch ID alone was perfection?"

Yeah funny you didn't have a problem w/ one biometric then but do now. Just admit it -- your real problem is with change to the unknown, not a single form of biometrics.

As for Craig's demo the biometric auth didn't fail. Go read the article, based on direct communication between Apple and tech writer David Pogue.

Wasn't even talking to you but as the over zealous self appointed defender of Apple you had to butt in and blast the thread with your unending snit and personalized retorts, you are tiresome, I swear you make it seem like Apple is you're mother or something, get a grip buddy. When touch ID came out face ID wasn't ready to accompany it, any moron can understand that, are you and DED seriously suggesting that one biometric authentication method is better than two ? For a company so dedicated to privacy it seems like StrangeDays when they'd just throw touch ID away even if it was possible for the new method to have been added to the old one

lkrupp said:

This is why I stick with Apple. They are not afraid to push the envelope, cross the line, move to where the puck will be. Apple could have played it safe and put TouchID on the back like Samsung. Instead they went nipples to the wind, balls to the wall, dragging users kicking and screaming with them. Will Face ID succeed wildly or fail miserably? Since it's Apple I believe it will be the former. And why do the lurkers come crawling out with every DED article? Because he throws it in their faces, that's why, and all they can do is claim he's an Apple brown nose. Re-read the section titled "Touch ID panic: This all happened before" as this is the crux of the article. Techies are always guffawing about luddites and those unwilling to adapt to technology when it's they themselves that are the cowards when change arrives. OMG, Apple did something different! Well they had better keep all my favorite ports and features because I refuse to consider change!

Change for change sake isn't a good thing, there will always come a point wher further change serves only to degrade a user experience that has otherwise achieved perfection, like the L shape of MBP, not that face ID is that, but swiping up to home screen  is not as elegant as the home button, that's just a degraded user experience that no dough will become natural like all things where you have little choice IMHO and the fact that the old model was just better will always remain. I personally hope touch ID returns some how, hopefully on the side button, I would think that be much easier to do than under the display.

macplusplus said:

zoetmb said:

SpamSandwich said:

randominternetperson said:

Is it ironic or predictable that the only black person on the senior leadership team is the VP for Inclusion and Diversity? Of course the alternative (a white man in that position) would have even worse optics. They should at least move her picture to the middle of the group, so it doesn't look like she was tacked on (even though it's alphabetical).

"Diversity" is progressive Newspeak. Hiring based on performance and individual talent is tantamount to thoughtcrime.

Ridiculous.  You can't understand how to develop, market and sell to the world (or even to the U.S.) without having a diverse management team and staff.  Trying to achieve diversity and hiring based on performance and talent are not mutually exclusive.   When almost everyone is a middle- or upper-class white guy, a company makes the same mistakes that GM made back in the 1970's when its golf course Cadillac driving white executives didn't believe that the masses really wanted more reliable, fuel-efficient, compact cars, which enabled the Europeans and Japanese to make tremendous inroads in the U.S. market.  

Even when it comes to things like user interface, there are cultural, age and gender differences that impact the way that people think and use products.   Without diversity, that doesn't get recognized and built into the products.   Diversity makes for good business and that's aside from the issues of fairness.   

Or do you think that upper middle-class white guys can understand the needs of everyone in every market?

That "differential" approach is called fragmentation in Apple'a parleance... "To every race its screen size", there is no such thing. Apple is totalitarian in technology markets, not "diversitarian"... That is what Samsung does, diversifying its products based on the race of its clients.

Wonder where you got that from, like Apple didn't change it's screen sizes with the six partly to better compete in china where culturally bigger phones where more popular, you act as thought Apple doesnt have a team of maketing people of Asian descent dedicated to making Apple relevent in china, its that totalitarian mentality thats probably responsible for how Apple is fairing or not over there, most people not belonging to minority groups have a very narrow mind set when it comes to this, like it some how means Apple shoud hire unqualified personnel just so it can say "hey look at us we care about the environment and hire black people", can all the people who have a negative attitude to this show where it says diversity policies mean unqualified or discrimination against whites ?

 What's funny is that Steve built Apple on diversity, and by the way true diversity is of thought and has little to do with skin color, for Apple to be strong it needs as broader thought streams coming from as diverse backgrounds as possible even if this clashes at times, this will allow for a diferrent way of looking at it and thats when the best ideas come through, if the room is filled with the same type of people who think the same typical thoughts and come to the same conclusions, how can fresh new ideas come through ? Is it a good thing that Apple can't design a single product with out rounded conners ? Coz that's clearly because the entire ID team is an extension of Jony, and they clearly all love the roundedness and probaly why Scot was booted even though he was and probably still is the best at what he did, the iOS UI lost a lot of simplicity when he left, it got a much nicer look though, is it not more desirable for a leader to hire unique and rare talent on merit and not on how familiar and relatable that talent is e.g. Male boss hirring mostly male coz of how well the interview chitchat went and who he liked as a guy