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Stabitha_Christie said:

randominternetperson said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

msuberly said:

robin huber said:

Smart move. Actions have consequences. Though I suspect the Britons will not rise up in outrage. They tolerate a much lower bar for privacy than Americans—camera tracking in the public space in the UK is second only to China. British cop shows often feature sequences where folks are tracked continuously on monitors using a combination of CCTV and cell phone signals. 

No. A real consequence would be Apple pulling its entire product line and support from the UK. Then 67 million people could decide if this action by their government is warranted. “You will lose all Apple products” carries way more weight than “you will lose end-to-end encryption for various features”, knowing most consumers have no idea what this means. 

Not possible you say? Why not, Apple did it with Russia for reasons that had nothing to do with any of its products.

The net result would be Tim Cook and likely the entire board being let go. 

Apple is a publicly traded company and the executive team has a fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders to maximize value of their investments.  Throwing a tantrum and leaving a country is not an option as Apple would take a financial hit. 

The comparison to Russia is not relevant. Apple legally had to stop selling its products in Russia due to sanctions. 

Nonsense.

Maybe some shareholders would call for a vote on overturning this and/or replacing the board. Then the shareholders (most of whom are mutual funds and other institutional investors, but lots are people like you and me) would vote on that and say, "Nah, we're good, keep up the good work, TC and Co."

Removing all products from a large market because one feature runs afoul of the local government is essential saying “if I can’t have my way I’m going to take my toys and go home”. It’s the thought process of a child.  I doubt anyone with such simplistic thinking would ever make to the executive team or the board and if they did I’d expect their removal. They would be unfit for the role. 

What I would expect is someone to act like an adult and look for a solution without compromising the product for everyone else. And that is what happened. They removed the feature and now users in the U.K can decide if they want to address it with their government. 

Perhaps think twice before speaking for other people. 

Stabitha_Christie said:

msuberly said:

robin huber said:

Smart move. Actions have consequences. Though I suspect the Britons will not rise up in outrage. They tolerate a much lower bar for privacy than Americans—camera tracking in the public space in the UK is second only to China. British cop shows often feature sequences where folks are tracked continuously on monitors using a combination of CCTV and cell phone signals. 

No. A real consequence would be Apple pulling its entire product line and support from the UK. Then 67 million people could decide if this action by their government is warranted. “You will lose all Apple products” carries way more weight than “you will lose end-to-end encryption for various features”, knowing most consumers have no idea what this means. 

Not possible you say? Why not, Apple did it with Russia for reasons that had nothing to do with any of its products.

The net result would be Tim Cook and likely the entire board being let go. 

Apple is a publicly traded company and the executive team has a fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders to maximize value of their investments.  Throwing a tantrum and leaving a country is not an option as Apple would take a financial hit. 

The comparison to Russia is not relevant. Apple legally had to stop selling its products in Russia due to sanctions. 

lowededwookie said:

The “e” clearly means “Entry” and as such will have less features than the more expensive versions. But the difference between the 16e and the SE is that it has the exact same processor as the CURRENT range. That’s where the cost increase is. The SE range all have one or two (more likely three or four due to upgrade cycles) versions prior which is where the cost savings come in.

So the reality is that the 16e is not the replacement to the SE but is in fact a new device to allow entry into the latest range while sacrificing some features that aren’t actually that important anyway. I have the 13 Mini and I use a Qi charger in my ute but all other times I use the cable.

Personally, if I was going to replace my 13 Mini I’d love to have a Pro Max but I’d be able to afford the 16e and feel good that I’m not sacrificing processing power.