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"In addition to ditching a physical home button, the S8 also appears to be preempting the "iPhone 8" through its facial scanning and augmented reality support."
Please guys, tell the truth. The Galaxy Note 7 had iris scanning. Further, Android phones have had iris scanning as far back as 2015 when Qualcomm first began building the capability into their chips.
Second, augmented reality support was built into Android thanks to Google and Qualcomm in Android 7. So thank Google's Project Tango for AR support, and Google announced Project Tango in 2014. The first device to fully support Project Tango was the Lenovo Phab 2 Pro released in 2016. And as Project Tango is supported at the hardware layer with the Qualcomm SOC, every Android phone that has the Snapdragon 835 and Android 7 will fully support AR, and also will fully support VR because Android 7 and the Snapdragon 835 support the Daydream VR platform too (although you will not hear Samsung mention that, as Samsung's Gear VR is on the competing Oculus platform). In fact, as the Snapdragon 821 also supports both Tango and Daydream, the LG G6 and the $499 Asus ZenFone AR - the best Android device for the money as the thing even has 8 GB of RAM! - also have AR and VR support.
So please folks, stop claiming that ideas that Samsung - and a host of other Android OEMs - implemented first, and in some cases YEARS FIRST - are attempts to copy Apple. Even the physical home button ... less an attempt to copy Apple than an attempt to maximize the screen to bezel ratio. Physical home button support was never in base Android but was added by Samsung into TouchWiz. Samsung - and LG - are adopting a design similar to 2014's Sharp Aquos Crystal. So, unless Apple emulates Samsung with a curved OLED screen, the iPhone 8 will be a derivative of this guy ... which also does not have a physical home button.
The REAL STORY is that Apple's profit share DECLINED from 110% the last 2 years to only 83.6% last year, and this was DESPITE 1) the iPhone 7 outselling the iPhone 6S by large margins and 2) the Note 7 debacle and 3) the LG G5 and LG V20 debacles and 4) Lenovo's totally messing up the acquisition of Motorola, resulting in their selling both fewer of their phones and Motorola phones than before and 5) Xiaomi's sales plummeting. This year, look for Samsung's profits to significantly rise and the situations with LG, Xiaomi and Lenovo to at least stabilize.chasm said:The article suffers from serious Kool-Aid-ism, but the lead sentence tells the entire story: "Because the Android model (or rather the manufacturing part of the Android model) is simply not sustainable.
cropr said:cali said:I love seeing thieves pay.
Now for the U.S. to go after other android scumbags.
sog35 said:This is why Apple didn't go thermo-nuclear on Samsung the last couple years.
They still need OLED panels from them
I think Jobs would have gone thermo-nuclear on Samsung and torched the bridge. Then he would be stuck without an OLED supplier.
I think this is why Cook is a great CEO. He is very strategic and does not let emotion take over. He sees the big picture, years ahead.
Other than the good PR that they received as the press still accuses Samsung and other OEMs of copying Apple to this day even for features that the other OEMs actually adopted first, there never was any ability for any war against Samsung or Android to succeed. The precedent set by the Supreme Court when they ruled for Microsoft over Apple more than 25 years ago made sure of that.
On one hand, Apple sells more iPhones in a month than Echos have sold in their entire lifetime. When you add to that the iPad, Apple Watch, Mac and even go back to the pretty much obsolete iPod, the idea that a platform that has sold billions of devices has to compete with one that has sold MAYBE 25 million is absurd. I get that Echo gives the tech press something new to talk about in a tech landscape that hasn't produced a new product in a long time. I get that the Echo marries IoT and AI, two areas that the tech media have claimed will be the next new hot world shattering thing for years, and in this way it replaces VR which was SUPPOSED to be the new big thing. If anything, the press probably WANTS Apple to enter this field - just as they want Apple to enter the VR field - in order to drive more sales and headlines. But until the Echo reaches 100 million regular active users - not just people who bought an Echo Dot because it was $35 on Prime Day - it isn't a platform and it isn't something that Apple has to take notice of. MAYBE it is an issue for Google, which is another company that has spent years trying and failing to be a factor in the hardware market. So Amazon has moved more Echos than Google has been able to sell Chromebooks (to actual consumers and not standardized test-driven schools), Nexus/Pixel phones and tablets, Android TV/Google TV units, Android Wear watches, smart routers, smart speakers, Google Glass and Google Cardboard/Daydream units. Fine. Write about this Titanic battle between two companies selling gadgets that no one has any practical daily use for and have no developer support to your heart's content. And even there: the 25 million Alexas pose no actual threat to Google, who absolutely owns search on desktop and mobile on BILLIONS of devices on ALL platforms where Alexa is only a factor in Amazon's tiny walled garden. Amazon likely pays Google more in ad revenue in a month than their Alexa program has generated for them in its lifetime. But on the other ... Apple's claim that they want Siri to be on a variety of devices ... meaning a variety of devices that Apple will manufacture. And Apple, by virtue of the type of company that they are - they aren't even LG, let alone Samsung - will only manufacture a small number of very expensive devices that will only be used by a small subset of the population. Now once again, this is not that big of a problem so long as their biggest "competition" as 25 million Alexa devices. But if someone does come up with a ubiquitious solution that is platform and hardware agnostic - i.e. something akin to a browser or browser based solution - it could be a real problem. The issue right now - with the A.I., IoT and VR fields - is that Google, Samsung, LG, HTC, Huawei, Xiaomi etc. are being stupid, each developing their own solutions in this area instead of working together. They each have their own smart TV platform, VR products, IoT platforms etc. ... and as a result have almost no market share or developer support between them. Virtually no one even uses the connected or smart features on Samsung's smart appliances, and Samsung's VR platform is only a kinda sorta success - 5 million devices shipped - because of their BOGO promotions and because it runs on the Oculus platform, not their own. LG's buying what remained of webOS and trying to use it to create their own smart TV platform to compete with Google (and Samsung and Apple TV and Roku and Amazon) was an even bigger failure. But again, this is not Apple's problem, and until someone actually figures this stuff out and starts to compete in this area, there won't be a real revenue-producing threat for them to respond to.