LordeHawk

StrangeDays said:

Wish he’d advance to cannibal-level crazy and we done with it after he’s committed. 

(PS - does anyone else use Safari on iPad for these forums and find it very difficult to enter text and select text? This is the only site where I have such issues)

As a designer myself with so many friends in the creative arts, we all should probably be committed a little bit.
True creatives are off the deep end, so to speak.

I have problems with this forum on my iPhone  Safari.  Nothing major, just irritating.  Now I write in notes and paste it in.

No love for Samsung or Microsoft products?  Maybe Samsung can stage some thefts so they don’t look left out...

melgross said:

roake said:

melgross said:

There have been two problems with folding OLED screens, even though we’ve seen examples of them during trade shows for several years, from several vendors.

one is that OLED is very sensitive to moisture, and plastic allows enfiltration of moisture. That’s been a major reason Win 10 they’re bonded to glass. The second is that even if the bending area doesn’t fail in some way, the surface isn’t glass, so it’s going to go back to the bad old days of highly scratched screens.

will consumers accept this?

You are assuming glass can’t bend.

There isn’t any glass that can bend flat as would be required for this purpose. In the lab, there are lots of glasses, but they are either way too expensive to use, or have some other major flaw, such as being very soft. Remember that we’re talking about something that has to bend over itself with no more than about an 0.125” radius. And it has to do it hundreds of times, maybe thousands. There is also the spring pressure from bending glass. The more you try to close the two halves, the more it will resist that bending. How hard would a glass covered screen be to fold up, assuming hat it could be made in the first place, which I doubt highly?

Tomorrow is my last day at an engineered plastics firm, I have seen some crazy tech, but Melgross is correct.  There are some graphene solutions coming down the pipeline, not this capable and not even approaching affordable.  There’s nothing currently available that can provide a durable, transparent and seamless design.  Both glass and plastic have a finite amount of bends (some opaque plastics can reach 500 bends before failing), the seam needs to register touch events, and the device must be able to survive at least a 3-4ft drop.  

The last phone is more plausible than the folded phone, but still no screen protection.  Even with an abrasion resistant coating (the only cost effective option) you’re only temporarily delaying the inevitable.

I appreciate Samsung getting everyone excited about technology, but this is vapor-ware at our current position on the Technology Curve.  What’s needed is at the bleeding edge, Shape Memory Polymers (SMP).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-memory_polymer

I used to work in Plastics and some of them act as a hinge, but the seem will become visible over time and has more time of around 200-500 bends depending on the formulation, and it’s not perfectly clear.

what if you drop your phone, and BendGate all over again!

I believe the true brilliancy of “iSight” (hope some of y’all enjoyed that...) is the abstaraction of technology into a usable and transparent implementation.  A prime example being AirPods, an essential piece of technology that fills a need in the market, and requires almost no thought or effort.  Use case scenarios encompass almost anything; navigation, notifications, landmark or point of interest recognition, virtual space sharing (ie: watching a movie with a friend that appears to be sitting on your other couch), virtual screens  & keyboards, data analytics, drone piloting, walk through video instructions, personal safety, person recognition, games, education, virtual tourist, shopping, mental illness, artificial bionics, etc.  With the App Store, anyone should be able to write apps and plugins specific to any task.

Five years ago, I began telling my friends that babies are being born, who will only know an augmented world, much like my generation can’t comprehend a world without the internet.
If we have the world at our fingertips, they will have the world within their ever watchful eyes.  On the human technology curve this will be a milestone that will shape us as a species, in so many unpredictable ways.  A modern “Allegory of the Cave”, in which man cannot return to darkness and ignorance.