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Still hiding behind benchmarks lol! Try a real world test, you know the kind many reviewers do on YouTube, with app and ram tests and battery. In all of those the note smokes the x with laughable ease. Without exagerration, I have an old Samsung kitkat device and an iPad 2018, the kitkat device opens word quicker than the iPad, how is that acceptable. Benchmarks mean zilch real world is what matters and iOS does not thrive there,

The comments here must be similar to the ones of the blackberry folks in their heyday and they heard about the iPhone and laughed. I really hope this smugness goes right to the top of Apple itself and some much needed hard humility comes.  Windows phone as an os was excellent, it was rapid, live tiles were awesome, it couldn’t attract developers which was its downfall. This time they are going to use upwindows strength it’s win32 programmes that can run on a tablet that’s in your pocket. Having used windows 10 in tablet mode, it works very well, multitasks better than an ipad as well. This could be a very interesting convergence product. 

sog35 said:

ObjectiveTechFan said:

I'm not here to argue that any of these products is "better" than the other, just that what Samsung and Microsoft have done recently is apparently more exciting and innovative. And obviously there's something to these narratives or else the author wouldn't feel compelled to address them. This whole article boils down to "Apple is still outselling the competition", which does address the straw man "Apple is doomed" narrative (no one really believes Apple is doomed), but it doesn't really address the heart of the issue, which is that 1) Samsung has come up with a really forward-leaning design while Apple is on year three of their current design, and 2) with the Surface Pro 4, Surface Book and now the Surface Studio, Microsoft has released multiple innovative designs while Apple has done less with their Mac lineup.

The Mac Pro is three years old and turns out to have been a dead-end; the new 12" MacBook was a neat iteration and proof of concept that you could shrink a MacBook Air, but not much of a redesign or really any different that what PC OEMs are doing; the new MacBook Pro has been hammered for it's limitations (somewhat unjustly, IMHO), but even still it's more iterative than innovative, the Touch Bar notwithstanding (and let's be honest, the Touch Bar is not the future); the MacBook Pro also had the unfortunate position of being unveiled at the same time as the Surface Studio, which was a much more exciting unveiling.

Again, I'm not here to argue whether any Apple, Samsung or Microsoft product is better than another, but it is undeniable that folks expect and desire more Apple innovation than they've seen in the last few years.

Surface sales are DOWN 26% this quarter....

I guess all that 'innovation' means little to the people who actually buy the product

Seriously? Are you aware of why Microsoft do the surface? It's not to be apple and become a hardware company, it is to create something, create a category then let the oem's take it forward. Surface may be nearing the end on that basis, hp, linx, eve, Lenovo, and a host of other companies have started doing surface clones with Microsoft helping them to do so.  Microsoft create the category and then it seems plan to step back. So your argument about sales is either misunderstanding or deliberate false news. 

By the way, I would love Microsoft to be a hardware company! They make great products in my opinion, not going to happen under Satya through, he's not interested in that at all. 

2-1s are the way forward I think, the iPad Pro is not a good solution to this, apple need to think different and come up with something creative, that a normal iPad and a £9.99 Bluetooth keyboard couldn't also do.

What's with these articles, the defensiveness of them is actually awkward to read, they give an air of desperation that really isn't needed, yet.

To claim the rise of 2-1s is not impeding the iPad is completely unattached from reality and the statistics that are coming out of most countries. To site a recent article, 2-1s in Australia are booming whilst tablets are falling of a cliff sales wise. There is a connection to claim other wise is not jounalism it's actually slightly disturbing, it's false news which I feel these articles are with the interpretations of stats which are so clearly inaccurate. 

People are choosing 2-1s and companies are rising up on this model too, from the eve v, a new start up company, the asus transformers, linx tablets and more, 2-1s are a challenge, and pegging an expensive keyboard onto an iPad that adds no further functionality than a £9.99 Bluetooth keyboard is not the answer.