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  • Comparing photography: iPhone XS Max versus Google Pixel 3 XL

    entropys said:
    So what is night sight, just a google take on keeping the ‘shutter’ open for longer? Or maybe combining light from multiple images?
    cool if you have your phone on a tripod with a Bluetooth clicker, and the subject is verrry, verrry still.

    i suspect in iOS there is an app for that. Like this one
    Somehow, i am not able to click on your app link.

    Night Sight is more than just long exposure.  For me, it sounds like long exposure + HDR processing so that the bright lights are not blown out in long exposure.  It also uses a touch of AI to brighten up the colors and get rid of minor hand shake.  (Huawei came out with this first but I think Google made it better by having more colors.)

    This is something that Apple can easily do (and improve upon) because it does not require much hardware...even Pixel 1st gen can do this.  This goes against what the media is saying how Google AI is the magic behind this...not really because you can have this on Pixel 1, which does NOT have Pixel Visual Core chip.

    It is a nice feature to have...but would you use it often??  It does take 3-5 seconds (depends on how dark it is).  So, forget about using this to take pic of your kids or pets...e.g. things that cannot hold perfectly still for more than a few seconds......using the flash on your iPhone Xs would be better.  For close to medium distance, a flash is going to better...faster time to take and sharper pic.  But for longer distance or you want to take a pic of your entire backyard (aka vast space), then yeah Night Sight is a “game-changer.”

    Now, what is a real game-changer is when someone can do Night Sight but at same time, be able to isolate slow MOVING subjects (like kids) and keep them relatively sharp.  And i think that this is where having Apple A12 and Smart HDR may come in handy...A12 (ISP + NN) already scans the frame pixel by pixel everytime you open the Camera app.  This is where Apple can really show off the A12 (A13?) capability.  I wonder if Apple can use the Telephoto lens during the “Night Sight” to help isolate the subjects in focus at the same time...maybe even create segmentation map to do better isolation and know which needs to be in focus.
    watto_cobra
  • Comparing photography: iPhone XS Max versus Google Pixel 3 XL

    KITA said:
    Madtiger said:
    Any Night Sight with moving subjects?  It’s good for stationary things...a little soft because AI has to compensate for handshake.  But how about moving subjects, which is more important?
    It will blur moving objects such as a car.

    Not sure about slow moving objects, but I would imagine it would blur. 
    From Cnet: When taking a Night Sight photo, you need to keep the phone as stable as possible to get the best results. If you're moving around too much, there's a good chance the image will be blurry.

    Verge: People wanted to know how Night Sight handles moving objects, and the answer is it doesn’t. Although it’s not one single long exposure, Google’s night mode still gathers light over a period of a few seconds, and anything moving through the frame in that time will turn into a blur of motion.
    watto_cobra
  • Comparing photography: iPhone XS Max versus Google Pixel 3 XL

    STiK said:
    I'm both an Apple and Google fanboy. I see advantages of both Apple products and Google/Android. I have to say that expecting a fair and objective review from Apple Insider or its readers is like expecting a Trump fan to give an honest assessment of Obama. This comparison played out exactly as I expected and so did the comments  
    I know right? I personally trust my Pixel to take consistently great shots over my iPhone. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone takes great photos but the Pixel is way more consistent. I'm not sure how they pulled off the dynamic range bias here as my Pixel is much better in this regard. With that said, I use my iPhone for video as it is light years better than what comes from my Pixel. 
    Yes Xs has better dynamic range than Pixel. Shadow details and highlight control. Pixel only has highlight control and lots of contrast. 

    Xs able to do both extremes due to A12. 
    watto_cobra
  • Comparing photography: iPhone XS Max versus Google Pixel 3 XL

    Any Night Sight with moving subjects?  It’s good for stationary things...a little soft because AI has to compensate for handshake.  
    watto_cobra
  • Comparing photography: iPhone XS Max versus Google Pixel 3 XL

    Night sight...good luck with moving subjects...and better keep steady hands...AI can’t correct all the shakes from the pics I have seen.

    Since it is available on all Pixels...Night Sight is nothing special or requiring anything hard to do.
    watto_cobra