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crowley said:

Ugh, shut up all of you.

I support your right to speak, even if that speech is an attempt to silence me.

spice-boy said:

williamh said:

spice-boy said:

tyler82 said:

If we had true capitalism in this country Goldman Sachs would no longer exist. But us lucky taxpayers got to subsidize this corrupt socialized industry who ruined millions of lives by destroying investments and retirements of hardworking Americans. 

Goldman Sachs is unfortunate "true capitalism", reckless, greed driven with no regards to it's investors and those whose retirements depend on them. "True Capitalism" also left them off leash when oversight and rules where thrown out the window. Please look up what the work "social" means, here is a hint to play nice with others, to be considerate and make sure everyone has something. 

The original poster's point was that under true capitalism, Goldman Sachs would have failed rather than be propped up by the government and thereby guaranteed by additional debt. I don't know why Apple would work with the firm, but it isn't for the need of funds to back the venture. Apple could pay for it with the proverbial coins under the couch cushions.
 
The word "social" and the words "socialist" or "socialized" are not interchangeable. Regardless of what you find when you look up the word "socialized," in practice it means to be controlled by brute force, to have no consideration for anyone, and to make sure you have something whether or not others have anything under the guise of ensuring that everyone is sharing misery equally. You can dream about Scandinavian socialism all you like but it ends up like Venezuela. You have to be naive to think that socialism isn't driven by greed and envy.

I know what the original post was suggesting and my point is capitalism has been highjacked by Libertarian "me first and who cares about everyone else". You are confusing socialism with communism the later's ideal of sharing everything equally. Socialism has existed in the US since the great depression, and the creation of the income tax. Before Social Security was created elders who no longer worked and had no family or children were pretty much on their own. Every American pays into the SS fund and can draw a pension at their time of retirement. I can imagine anyone thinking this is a bad thing. I have traveled to Scandinavia for 35 years and have seen a democratic - socialism - capitalism government and society close up and it is something to envy and not fear. Too many Americans have no idea of anything outside of the US which is a shame, Please explain what ""socialized," in practice it means to be controlled by brute force, to have no consideration for anyone" ?
I think you are thinking of a totalitarian system or dictatorship? 

Ok, since you are already this far off-topic, I'll weigh in...

"capitalism has been highjacked by Libertarian "me first and who cares about everyone else"." - This is categorically wrong, and a gross mis-statement of Libertarianism.  Libertarians believe in maximum equality and maximum personal freedom for all.  You may recognize these as the founding principles of the United States of America.

Economies work best, and the society as a whole prospers most, when the government is strictly limited to ensuring the fewest barriers to entry, and a "fair game" for all participants.  The great depression was caused by the government's abject failure to ensure both - followed by its idiotic monetary policy.  Government can only ensure a "fair game" by being completely separated from, and having zero interest in, any particular outcome of the game - only that the game is fair, and open to all.  Government programs are inherently inefficient, ineffective and and corrupt because the government is being tasked with overseeing themselves.  Which is why it has always been a truism that the best government possible is the least government possible.  

That said, voluntary social programs (at least those that don't do more harm than good - and preferably *not* run by the government) are commendable because, while it is virtuous to take money out of your own pocket to give to others, it is despicable to take it out of someone else's.  

Funny how every other phone manufacturer on the planet is always combined as "Android" and then pitted against just one - Apple - in order to make it even *seem* like they are worthy "innovators"/competition. And how the conversation gets twisted into "Apple is evil/greedy because they have a "closed" ecosystem and don't share their OS with others", instead of "Every other phone manufacturer lacks the innovation to create their own OS, so they have to rely on an off-the-shelf OS freebie made by an advertising company".

I don't love the notch, but it is the optimum compromise for combining the sensors/camera/speaker while giving the phone maximum bezel-less impression. The corners need to be seen or it just looks like an old-style/S8 bezel.

Ask yourself why the Chinese government would enforce this only on the iPhone - not Android, or even the Mac - exactly one month before the new iPhone is due to be announced. The Chinese government is protecting Chinese phone manufacturers. Apple isn't sucking up to the Chinese, they're being screwed over by them.