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Apple is not a monopoly and has the right to set their policies. Proof is, xCloud will work with Android.

So, the choice is clear. If you wish to stream games on your mobile device, you go for Android. Period. 

Companies have the right not to go in certain areas. Should it be a mistake, it will be their bad. But please, stop this “anti-consumer” nonsense!  

Ultimately, it is Apple’s store. They have built it. What the fuzz about their rules? You don’t like it, you go elsewhere. You have other choices. 

elijahg said:

danvm said:

Beats said:

Well.... this is a first.

Time for Apple to take Apple Arcade seriously.

I always thought that Apple Arcade was serious for Apple.  It's just that xCloud could be far better than what Apple offers.  And we, as customers, now are stuck with Apple Arcade. 

Personally I've been fairly unimpressed with AA, insofar as I have cancelled it until it improves. There have been a few good games but most of it is just ad-free or IAP-free versions of existing App Store games.

Apple doesn't want xCloud because it can bypass the App Store and with it Apple's control, and more importantly for them, their 30% cut. Same reason that Steam Link (essentially low-latency VNC) wasn't allowed on AppleTV until Valve removed purchases via Steam Link. Apparently doesn't matter that you can purchase things via any of the existing VNC apps. This is exactly the kind of behaviour that is attracting the ire of governments.

swineone said:

sflocal said:

Developers that whine about this policies really chaff my backside.  Absolute the most selfish, greedy, entitled people around.  Apple does all the work creating a groundbreaking new product, getting a loyal - and profitable - user base, and created an ecosystem that allows anyone to develop software and have access to hundreds of millions of users at MINIMAL cost.

Those users are Apple's users, not yours.  It's Apple's product, and their ecosystem.  Not yours.  You obviously were too young (or ignorant) about how us developers had to develop/market/sell/charge for software back in the pre-iPhone days.  Otherwise, you'd be thanking Apple for taking "only" 30%.  

The reality is, Android is a mess, piracy and IP theft is rampant, and security is non-existent, and these blowholes want to force Apple to adopt such a system?  Good luck.

Eh, this discussion again.

I guess Apple didn't do all the work creating a groundbreaking new product (macOS), getting a loyal - and profitable - user base with macOS, and didn't create an ecosystem that allows anyone to develop software and have access to hundreds of millions of macOS users at MINIMAL cost? If they did, how come you can buy macOS software without giving Apple a 30% cut?

"Those users are Apple's users, not yours". I prefer to think of it this way: my iPhone is mine, not Apple's, and I should have a say if Apple gets a 30% cut on all software I purchase.

Now, I'm the first person on the world to be against absolutely any kind of government intervention, but I'll be secretly smiling on the inside the day the US government tells Apple to open up the iOS ecosystem. And, trust me, they will.