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radarthekat said:

No word from these reports as to whether any other companies get parts from these companies.  Surely they aren’t solely Apple suppliers.  

Beats said:

All these emails reveal is that these are scumbag companies.

The last bit about promoting Epic reinforces what I said in another thread. Apple was VERY friendly to Epic and always promotes them at iPhone keynotes. Little did they know they were sleeping with the devil.

Apple should take gaming to first-party and take it VERY seriously so as*holes like these have less control over product damage. Removing Fortnite was petty and although it doesn’t affect us AI readers much it did affect iPhone users who did play the game hours a day. Apple should invest 5 billion into first-party studios and game engines as a platform security measure and ecosystem stickiness. Throw in a killer M1 Apple TV with first-party M1 games and these game studios will have less leverage against Apple.

Schiller denied this request, stating in an email that "We run the store, we collect the revenue."

Pretty much sums up the logic of this trial. 

InspiredCode said:

mr lizard said:

Just let developers link out to their own website from the app for payments already. If Apple’s confident in their IAP platform, then they won’t be concerned that customers won’t use it over the developers own system. 

Not being able to link out, and not even being able to tell the customer where to go to make payments outside of the app, is just childish and petty.  

I would prefer something like that, but they know they will
need to reduce the split to probably no higher than 15-20% in that case or nobody would use IAP. Apple also considers them their customers, so they would not want you processing transactions for their customers.

Ideally my preference would be for Apple to let developers obtain their own customers from their website or another platform. If a developer obtains a customer away from the App Store with a user account created outside the app then it is the developers customer and they can use alternate payment methods for additional purchases directly in an app, if Apple obtains the customer by the user creating the account in app then it is Apple's customer and they need to use IAP since Apple would be responsible for those transactions. This makes much more sense to me than the weird rules that try to prevent bypassing Apple's IAP by making it a poor experience for end users.

The other problem with the current system is that Apple essentially steals a developers customer obtained elsewhere if that customer wants to use an Apple device since Apple now owns the customer in respect to IAP.

To take it a step further, I think it would be ideal if a developer could opt-out of listing with a hidden store page. If they do that then they could also opt out of Apple's IAP. Apple could even limit the size of these apps so that a developer would need to use their own CDN to obtain non-executable content for large apps. With hidden store pages, Apple could also be more selective with what they list on the store. That way they could get rid of junk apps more easily while still giving an alternative way for those apps to list. Getting rid of the junk apps would increase the listing value to developers that create great apps and make it less likely people will find apps that don't get the same level of scrutiny by reviewers.

urahara said:

"To set Fortnite aside and pull out some device..."
Wait! What other device? I usually can open Safari by swiping up and taping Safari icon one time. 

I guess Sweeney is using his device the wrong way. LOL

wizard69 said:

Honestly I'd rather see a folding iPad with all of the troublesome IPad restrictions or short comings removed.   Either that or go the same route with iPhone and provide us with a real I/O port like the iPad and again deal with the iOS restrictions.

Currently I see my Iphone as nothing more than a smart phone.   Refactor the machine with a large screen, a decent and accessible I/O port and deal with IOS and I could see iPhone becoming a viable laptop replacement that fits in my pocket.    Right now iPhone has zero potential to do that.