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Apple shutting down Sign in with Apple support for Epic Games accounts
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Mark Zuckerberg says Apple's App Store 'deserves scrutiny'
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Apple fires back in Epic Games 'Fortnite' saga, seeks damages for breach of contract
johnbear said:Imagine visa and MasterCard charging merchants 30% to use their system;)You are missing totally the point. Your example is not relevant.To may use Visa or MasterCart, it means first of all, that you have to have already a bank account.And you are buying nothing from Visa or MasterCart, you are PAYING WITH Visa or MasterCart,
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Apple fires back in Epic Games 'Fortnite' saga, seeks damages for breach of contract
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Apple's 'Fortnite' takedown will cause incalculable harm to users, says Epic
danvm said:davidw said:ITGUYINSD said:Beats said:ITGUYINSD said:Beats said:I carefully read the article for a change.
I gathered,
Epic wants to bypass Apple fees 100% but want to set up a shop on Apple products and reap 100% profit.
Epic is complaining that Apple has a monopoly on Apple products.
Did you carefully read the article? I think not. It literally says "That power emboldened it to design restrictions to create and maintain monopolies in app distribution and in-app payment processing." Monopoly of distribution and payment processing, NOT Apple products. So, you gathered wrong. Apple does have a 100% monopoly on distribution and payment processing. No lies there. Is it legal? I think that is what this is about.
Nope Apple owns the iPhone and iPad.
Same as Netflix owns Netflix and Wal Mart owns Wal Mart. I can't just walk into Wal Mart and demand they paint the walls a different color and demand an organic juice bar and demand they carry my product like a crappy flea market.
"Epic should be free to "setup shop" on any device the owner of the device wants and Epic should not have to pay the manufacturer of the device a fee for the "privilege" of doing so."
Cool. Now go criticize Nintendo, Microsoft, Netflix, Wal Mart, Amazon. I always find it funny how Apple is always shi* on for things 99% of the industry practice.
The other companies you listed? How are they like Apple? Walmart and Amazon do not force buyer or sellers to have to sell at Amazon or Walmart. My TV example above proves once I've purchased the TV, I can do whatever I want to do with it, not what Amazon or Walmart tells me I can do with it.
Walmart has every right to not sell the TV brand that you might want to buy. If Walmart don;t want to sell Samsung TV's because Samsung is not willing to drop their wholesale price to the point where Walmart can make a certain precent profit from each retail sale, then Walmart has every right not to sell Samsung TV's in their stores. And Samsung has no right what so ever, to set up a shop inside a Walmart to sell their own TV's, to people like you that might want to own a Samsung TV. If Samsung want to sell TV's in a Walmart, they have to deal with Walmart. Walmart has full control what brand TV's are sold in their stores. They have a monopoly there. The same monopoly MS has with their X-Box, Sony has with their PlayStation and Apple has with their iDevices. No one is going to accuse Walmart of abusing the monopoly they have in what is sold in their stores, if they refuse to sell Samsung TV's or refuse to allow Samsung to set up their own shop inside a Walmart.
And you are completely wrong about you being able to watch anything you want with your TV, once you buy it. You can only watch what the TV allows you to watch. You can not install your own app in the Smart TV menu or anyone else's, that has not been approved by your TV maker. If your TV didn't come with the Amazon Prime app, then you can't watch what's on Amazon Prime, no matter how much you think you can watch whatever you want, because its YOUR TV. And unless the TV maker allow Amazon Prime in their TV, all your crying about how the TV has a monopoly on what apps can be installed, is not going to get you to watch anything you want. If you want to watch Amazon Prime, then you have to buy a TV with Amazon Prime app pre-installed or hope that in the future, your TV maker will update their apps to include Amazon Prime. Or you can install an external TV box and use your TV just as a monitor, to watch what your external TV box allows you to watch.
If you bought a PC, can you install a Mac OS X program? Why not? You bought it. It's YOUR computer and you should be able to install and run what program you want ... right? Same with buying an X-Box. Why can't you play your PlayStation disc on it? Why can't you buy games only on Nintendo, from the MS Store in your X-box? It YOUR X-Box and you should be able to play what games you want on it. See how your illogical thinking work? It doesn't.You really don’t get it. Yes, you can compare, and you have to, if you want to understand the situation.
You can’t purchase the game you want, by the retailer you want, if the retailer of your choice doesn’t not want to sell you the game you want, because the developer of the game you want, refuse to pay any commission to the retailer of your choice.
So in this example Apple/iOS/AppStore is the retailer who doesn’t want to sell you the game you want, because the developer of game you want, refuse to pay any commission.