klock379

CloudTalkin said:

A patent holder can sue anyone along the chain of alleged infringement.  In this particular instance, CIT can sue Broadcom who made the chips, Apple who uses the chips, and even end users who use the products that use the chips.  Obviously, there's no strategic advantage to suing end users or shipping companies that move the chips or any of the other ancillary touch points.  

I know you're probably saying to yourself, "but that's not fair".  You'd be right, but it would be pointless to make that observation.  The laws as currently constructed say that it's legal.  Here's a classic example of legal but even more unfair:  Microsoft v Datatern.  End users sued.

Typically speaking, won’t the indemnification clause in the contract between parties be protecting the downstream party from being sued or suffering any penalties for the wrongdoing of the upstream party?

Kuyangkoh said:

klock379 said:

I am lucky enough that Arlo firmware update was successful and added to Apple's Home app. At this time, I can see all my camera feeds in Home app. However, I haven't figured out how to get Home automation to work with Arlo... I cannot arm or disarm the system from Home app, so I cannot tie any of my scenes to Arlo. In their press release, it says "allowing users to include Arlo cameras into their custom scenes or automations." Would appreciate if any one who has figured it out to share.

Your lucky.....mine says uncertified accessory and cannot be added. How did you it? Please share

REPOST since the formatting was wrong in my previous reply. 

I WAS lucky. First, I was at home, I remember I launch Arlo, went to Settings -> HomeKit, and it displayed the same screen as if I went to Settings -> My Devices -> Home -> HomeKit Setup (more on that later). It said Discovering your device. Please wait. And in the Device found pane, my base unit showed up, I clicked and it discovered all cameras associated with the base unit. - I did not upgrade my firmware ahead of time. I don't even know what firmware it was using before today. - Now when I click on Settings -> HomeKit, it shows an empty page except for controls up at the top. When I click on the gear icon, i shows my current home, option to add a new home, and Reset HomeKit. - I don't know if that makes a difference, I have other HomeKit accessories and I have been using HomeKit before Arlo. I hope this helps someone.

rbtexan said:

Well, I take back my compliments. This homekit integration is great, but has a huge flaw. The cameras appear to stay “always on”. My battery powered cameras have lost 30 percent just in the last 5 hours. That’s not sustainable. Looks like I’ll have to figure out how to wire them up, or remove them from homekit.....

I just launched HK app, and all snapshots had a 6 hour time stamp on it. Then they are replaced by a new set of snapshots every 2 minutes if I stay on the HK app.

It seems for each camera there are 2 entries in HK, one is the video feed and the other is camera/motion sensor itself. The video feed is on only when HK app is active, whereas the motion sensor is always on, unless you disable the camera from the Arlo app.  

rbtexan said:

Works really great. I am such a happy camper today. Arlo, this is a huge step in trust. I will now proceed with more camera purchases. 

As a side note, I had to remove and reinstall my Arlo app to trigger the automatic update process. 

Did you get Home app to arm and disarm Arlo? If so, can you share how you did it?

Your lucky.....mine says uncertified accessory and cannot be added. How did you it? Please share It was really nothing to it, guess I WAS lucky. First I was at home, I remember I launch Arlo, went to Settings -> HomeKit, and it displayed the same screen as if I went to Settings -> My Devices -> Home -> HomeKit Setup (more on that later). It said Discovering your device. Please wait. And in the Device found pane, my base unit showed up, I clicked and it discovered all cameras associated with the base unit. - I did not upgrade my firmware ahead of time. I don't even know what firmware it was using before today. - Now when I click on Settings -> HomeKit, it shows an empty page except for controls up at the top. When I click on the gear icon, i shows my current home, option to add a new home, and Reset HomeKit. - I don't know if that makes a difference, I have other HomeKit accessories and I have been using HomeKit before Arlo. I hope this helps someone.