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evolut said:

AppleInsider said:
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Cons

• Limited by HomeKit
• Without proper placement, sun can skew metrics

- Not sure what “limited BY HomeKit” means here, but for me, limited to HomeKit is not a Con. If a device is exclusively HomeKit, it brings me peace of mind, a big PRO!

- Exposure to sun, or any radiant heat for that matter, affects ALL thermometers (with arguably the exception of infra-red thermometers). 

So it shouldn’t be a Con, mentioned as a side note maybe, no more.

Perhaps not clear enough, but I thought I spelled it out in the body of the review. Limited to just HomeKit as opposed to Alexa or Google isn't what I'm saying. I'm saying its only limitations are those imposed by HomeKit. HomeKit doesn't have support for rain or wind. Eve would surely build support for these in a HomeKit weather station if HomeKit supported those metrics. 

Hope that clears it up. I totally agree that support for HomeKit and ONLY HomeKit is a huge plus! HomeKit just needs to do more sometimes.

entropys said:

Without the ability to measure rainfall or wind the Eve is a non starter, for me.

A weather app generally crowd-sources weather stations that probably aren't in your backyard. While the information is generally accurate, it depends on how far you are away from that weather source, and it can be a fair bit of work tracking down which data source is best for you.

A hundred dollar eBay weather station can be set up in your backyard to become one of those weather stations that can upload data to weather underground et al. Which you can then read with one of a range of apps and does everything such as rainfall, UV as well as all the more expensive Eve or Netatmo products. The apps can also as noted give info from neighbours’ stations and you get to see how the microclimate varies with distance. You can also see whose weather station is clearly dodgy, of course.

I am not sure HomeKit functions in this space are that worthwhile given that the wifi range of a basic weather station is more than adequate and the indoor console or your app of choice does everything. 

That said the eve looks a lot more attractive than those eBay jobs.

I totally agree that rain and wind are crucial, but unfortunately, HomeKit doesn't include these. Eve does *everything* with HomeKit. They don't want the Eve app to be necessary/required and if they did rain or wind they'd have to communicate outside of HomeKit. Just won't happen with Eve. I love the Nanoleaf setup which I believe can be used with third-party weather apps such as Carrot and possibly WU. I have one of those and the basics go through HomeKit. Just quite a bit more and has no display.

I buy this partially for the weather, partially for the ability to see the screen outside at the same time.

Vermelho said:

OK. Since you asked.  This is ridiculous, to the extent that the review screams sponsorship.
Brushed aluminum does not mean Apple design, and the forced functionality and non modularity are not just generally questionable, but downright dumb in the case of the iPad Pro.
Not even addressed here is the fixed height. This would be very tiring to use much with fingers. Awful if not impossible to use with the pen (biggest reason to choose iPad imho). Maybe if your standing and drag it closer to you, but that will suit a fraction of people a fraction of the time.
There are great little USB-C mini docks for around $30 for all this connectivity (maybe 2 cheaper ones even better). That fit in your bag and go with you where you’ll likely be needing them!
The other device chargers are far from
elegant and have no place being cemented to this.
When the power supply burns out, you get a book holder and a boat anchor, along with lost functionality everywhere, although you couldn’t move them or take them anywhere else anyway....
yuck.

Lots to unpack here in your diatribe. 
First, Apple single-handedly popularized the aluminum build. This very much feels like an Apple-inspired product from its design that is borrowed from the Pro Display XDR, to the use of aluminum, to the magic use of magnets to hold the iPad in place. While Apple doesn't have any heathered fabric products, the charging pad even feels like something Apple would do.

Second, I have NO issues with the fixed height. This is for use at a desk in a studio or office environment. You can use your fingers but it is best used with a keyboard and mouse alongside the touchscreen. 

Those $30 mini docks are typically garbage. Cheap chipsets, slower versions of USB, not even close to 37.5W of charging power, and often good amounts of plastic. If you tried to sell me on a $80-$100 one I would agree. But those are designed for portability rather than desktop use.

The power supply also is also an off-the-shelf component. A simple LiteOn brick that can be replaced from Amazon for $20 and let you continue to use this thing for ages.

Those portable USB-C hubs don't offer you a rotating stand, usually not Ethernet, definitely not a UHS-II card reader, for sure not two Qi chargers, and not an Apple Watch charger.

If you want a portable USB-C hub, go for that. There are tons of options at any price point. If you want a desktop docking station then you're left with almost nothing but this.

hexclock said:

Maybe I missed it in the article, but is this a paid service?

Apple Fitness+ is a paid service that runs you $9.99 a month or $79.99 a year. It can also be included with your Apple One bundle for no additional cost if you are on the top tier.

quazze said:

We have this problem too. However, to avoid it, simply use your iPhone and “Airplay” your workout to the TV. You will not receive any more errors this way, at least we have an experienced it.

Yeah, but this isn't really the same and a workaround more than a fix. Not all people will do that either which makes it still a big issue for Apple.