KITA

kevin kee said:

KITA said:

kevin kee said:

4.  20% faster CPU/GPU but 30-40% less power consumption - this is an engineering wonder by itself.

20% faster with the same power consumption - or - 30%~40% less power consumption with the same performance as the A12.

Anandtech:

On the CPU side of things, we’ve seen some evidence that Apple might be introducing a new CPU microarchitecture that differs more from past generations. There’s still two big performance new “Lightning” cores and the improvement claims here are 20% faster and 30% lower power. It’s not clear if this is actually both improvements at the same time or either of them – last year it ended up actually being either one or the other based on our testing. 

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The actual annotations in regards to the GPU in the A13 slides mentioned 20% performance improvements or 40% lower power.

From apple website.

Fastest CPUin a smartphone

The CPU’s two performance cores are up to 20 per cent faster and use up to 40 per cent less power. And its four efficiency cores are up to 20 per cent faster and use up to 25 per cent less power.

Fastest GPUin a smartphone

The Apple‑designed GPU is up to 20 per cent faster and uses up to 30 per cent less power. Perfect for high‑performance gaming and the latest AR experiences.

We know Apple tends to be more conservative in their lab testing but once the world testing results out we shall see.

Circle back to the quote from Anandtech:

"It’s not clear if this is actually both improvements at the same time or either of them – last year it ended up actually being either one or the other based on our testing"

I'm sure we'll see an interesting deep dive from Andrei as soon as he gets his hands on a new iPhone.

StrangeDays said:

Ah yeah, 50% faster SOC for iPhones, not innovative

20%, not 50%. T

That's about in-line with ARM's own designs for their medium sized A77 core:



Still, that shouldn't take away from the entire package. The A13 is an impressive SoC.

kevin kee said:

4.  20% faster CPU/GPU but 30-40% less power consumption - this is an engineering wonder by itself.

20% faster with the same power consumption - or - 30%~40% less power consumption with the same performance as the A12.

Anandtech:

On the CPU side of things, we’ve seen some evidence that Apple might be introducing a new CPU microarchitecture that differs more from past generations. There’s still two big performance new “Lightning” cores and the improvement claims here are 20% faster and 30% lower power. It’s not clear if this is actually both improvements at the same time or either of them – last year it ended up actually being either one or the other based on our testing. 

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The actual annotations in regards to the GPU in the A13 slides mentioned 20% performance improvements or 40% lower power.

randominternetperson said:

"Running the 1440p Manhattan test, the iPhone XS Max earned 3312.76 frames at 53.43 fps, against the Galaxy Note 10+ which pulled 2364 frames at 38 fps. It's a close one, but the iPhone XS Max won again here."

 Is that supposed to be (oddly placed) sarcasm or a misinterpretation of the data?

When it comes to sustained performance the, A12 is about par with some of the better Snapdragon 855 implementations.


Appleinsider (and many other sites) seem to be attracted to peak performance tests such as Geekbench (a test that has pauses built in just to prevent thermal throttling). These are quick and easy numbers to throw at people.

While peak performance has its place for some types of workloads, for something like a graphics / gaming test, its rather useless.

StrangeDays said:

Chica said:

radarthekat said:

First, it wasn’t until Apple showed the way.  Par for the course on that one.

Second, sound quality is subjective, but okay, Samsung makes good hardware.

Third, if they’re saying the Samsung product serves the Android market better and AirPods serve the iOS market better, what’s the point?  

Or was it Samsung that showed the way with gear icon X, wireless buds and a charging case. Came out before the first gen AirPods. 

Apple did it first of course though. 

Incorrect. Both products were released in December, 2016. Dunno date of iconX but AP came out December 13. 

It came out July 15 2016 - https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-gear-iconx-cord-free-earbuds-hit-the-shelves-today

I did however notice that you decided to edit Wikipedia just so you could claim they "both" came out in December: